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Calgary YYC Master Mind Group (I'm an MLM Liar)

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Hey Everyone, this is a special announcement for people who live in Calgary, Alberta.

We have a master mind group here of 20 people with successful like minded people.

We also have the best Mentor in Calgary, there is a meeting tomorrow at 7:30PM if anyone is interested.

Please Note, you do not have to pay whatsoever, most Mentors will make you pay for mentor-ship, WE DO NOT.

Message me for more info.
 
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Not interested in joining any groups, but if you ever want to just hang out, let me know. :)
 

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Smart move @GrumpyCat. Turns out its WorldVentures bullshit. Wasted an hour of my life driving to the damn place.

Ah well, back to work I guess. Got a new email subscriber while I was out. That's a plus :)

@MJ DeMarco @Vigilante or @AllenCrawley, are you in the mood to ban the MLM-touting OP?

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Smart move @GrumpyCat. Turns out its WorldVentures bullshit. Wasted an hour of my life driving to the damn place.

Ah well, back to work I guess. Got a new email subscriber while I was out. That's a plus :)

@MJ DeMarco @Vigilante or @AllenCrawley, are you in the mood to ban the MLM-touting OP?

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What happened?

This marketplace has a tendancy to be it's own filter. MLM people don't last around here. However, maybe he can learn something.
 
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However, you have an opportunity to tell the story here so people understand the setup, the pitch, and your feelings and observations about it. The forum would be well served by you explaining how the "pitch" works.
 

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Also, sweet lesson for forum members. You met someone with 3 posts here. Bet you won't be jumping in your car too quickly on the next round. Let people demonstrate value.
 

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Hey Everyone, this is a special announcement for people who live in Calgary, Alberta.

We have a master mind group here of 20 people with successful like minded people.

We also have the best Mentor in Calgary, there is a meeting tomorrow at 7:30PM if anyone is interested.

Please Note, you do not have to pay whatsoever, most Mentors will make you pay for mentor-ship, WE DO NOT.

Message me for more info.

Did you offer a mastermind group that was really multi level marketing? This is your shot to protect your reputation.

Because that sounds dirty.
 
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You met someone with 3 posts here. Bet you won't be jumping in your car too quickly on the next round. Let people demonstrate value.

Yep. Lesson learned. I had my suspicions due to his post count and the wording of his original post. But I also had that 'miss 100% of the shots you don't take' line in the back of my mind too. Figured I would see what was what.

However, you have an opportunity to tell the story here so people understand the setup

- If you walk into a room (or basement) with 10 twenty-somethings and none of them talk about business or businesses for 45 minutes straight… It might be MLM
- If you ask "what is this is all about?" and no one can answer your question… It might be MLM
- If you ask point-blank, "is this MLM" and three separate people are called into the room, decide they aren't qualified to answer your question, and pass it off to the next guy until eventually you're asked "what do you mean by that? This is network marketing. Its a great opportunity"… It might be MLM
- If you mention you came from the Fastlane forum and no one knows what you're talking about… It might be MLM
- If no one will tell you the name of the system they're trying to sell you… it might be MLM
- If you look over the shoulder of the guy, see the name of the system on the TV, google it and the second result says "Is Worldventures and Dreamtrip a scam?"… It's probably MLM, dude. Put on your shoes and get the F*ck out of there.

Anyway. More mad at myself for not trusting my intuition. Not a mistake I will repeat.

On the bright side, the drive there was beautiful. Also, growth-wise, a pre-TMF me would have sat there and listened to the whole pitch out of politeness.

I also crammed my priorities today so I would have time to go to this thing. Meaning now I actually have an evening to myself for the first time in forever.

So not all doom and gloom! :)

I guess I was just expecting a bunch of business owners sitting around a room talking about what has worked and what hasn't. Instead, I got a bunch of kids sitting around a basement, talking about clubbing, picking up girls (for the guys), being pregnant too young (for the girls) and other sidewalk BS waiting for "the presentation to start". If I wanted that shit I'd still hang out with my old friends.
 
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Epic write up hahaha, I can just imagine how that whole thing went down.

Was it even clear if OP was there/did you meet him?

@SlowlaneJay, so when are we meeting up?

I promise I won't sell you into joining any MLM. lol

Do you have a bike (the human powered variety)? I got a new CX bike that I've been riding pretty heavily and wouldn't mind hitting the pavement.

And @Vigilante, thanks for rep!
 
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Lol. Great write up @SlowlaneJay



Not to derail (would you mind it derailed anyway?)...

I also crammed my priorities today so I would have time to go to this thing. Meaning now I actually have an evening to myself for the first time in forever.

Can you do this all the time?
 

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Hey Everyone, this is a special announcement for people who live in Calgary, Alberta.

We have a master mind group here of 20 people with successful like minded people.

We also have the best Mentor in Calgary, there is a meeting tomorrow at 7:30PM if anyone is interested.

Please Note, you do not have to pay whatsoever, most Mentors will make you pay for mentor-ship, WE DO NOT.

Message me for more info.

Wow, I'm not sure how this bullshit escaped the forum's censors but yea, it screams MLM with a cherry on top.

Also, growth-wise, a pre-TMF me would have sat there and listened to the whole pitch out of politeness.

I apologize this was not axed earlier as I'm pretty sure no one here wants to join a band of money chasing sheeple who are easily impressed by leased Mercedes C-Classes and promises to make $10k/mo.

So... did you just walk out as the guy spoke? Or before?
 
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I apologize this was not axed earlier as I'm pretty sure no one here wants to join a band of money chasing sheeple who are easily impressed by leased Mercedes C-Classes and promises to make $10k/mo.

At the BiggerPockets forum we have a transparency policy for anyone creating events. I'm posting it here just in case you'd be curious about using your own version of it.
  • We expect that planners to be transparent about the events posted here. That means you MUST let people know the following: Will anyone be selling or pitching products, services, or other events at this event AND is there a cost to attend?
  • We also expect that planner disclose whether there is a sponsor of the event, and if they will be pitching.
  • Finally, we want you to know that if you promote your event as something and we learn that you weren't completely transparent or truthful in your promotion, you will be banned from ever promoting again on the site and may have your account on BiggerPockets closed.
  • Do not be anything less than 100% transparent when posting about your event.
 
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Was it even clear if OP was there/did you meet him?

@SlowlaneJay, so when are we meeting up?

Yep, he shook my hand, said hello, and that was it. I mainly talked to who I assume was "the best mentor in Calgary". Forgot his name, but he reminded me of an Arabian Tony Robbins.

I don't own a bike, but can easily acquire one. I'll PM you.

Can you do this all the time?

Yeah that thought has been bouncing around in my mind. I may have more capacity than I had imagined.

So... did you just walk out as the guy spoke? Or before?

I talked to the Ahmed Robbins guy for about 5-10 minutes. He was the gentleman who finally answered my MLM question. The one comment from our conversation that really stuck with me was "we're talking about building not just your first, but your second, third, and all the way to your seventh business. That's seven streams of passive revenue."

I don't know. If you own seven businesses, why are we meeting in a basement in the Northeast? And how come the guy next to me has his hat on backwards and his pants around ankles?

After 45 minutes of the "successful entrepreneurs" talking about nothing of value, one of them went up to the TV, went to youtube, and started scrolling through videos.

Over his shoulder, I saw the name of the system, googled it, and was out of there.

As I went out the door I heard him say, "first, I'll show you all a quick video, then I want to talk a little about why I'm doing this" <rock music begins>

I shut the door, got in my car.
 

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Yep, he shook my hand, said hello, and that was it. I mainly talked to who I assume was "the best mentor in Calgary". Forgot his name, but he reminded me of an Arabian Tony Robbins.

I don't own a bike, but can easily acquire one. I'll PM you.



Yeah that thought has been bouncing around in my mind. I may have more capacity than I had imagined.



I talked to the Ahmed Robbins guy for about 5-10 minutes. He was the gentleman who finally answered my MLM question. The one comment from our conversation that really stuck with me was "we're talking about building not just your first, but your second, third, and all the way to your seventh business. That's seven streams of passive revenue."

I don't know. If you own seven businesses, why are we meeting in a basement in the Northeast? And how come the guy next to me has his hat on backwards and his pants around ankles?

After 45 minutes of the "successful entrepreneurs" talking about nothing of value, one of them went up to the TV, went to youtube, and started scrolling through videos.

Over his shoulder, I saw the name of the system, googled it, and was out of there.

As I went out the door I heard him say, "first, I'll show you all a quick video, then I want to talk a little about why I'm doing this" <rock music begins>

I shut the door, got in my car.

Damn it I wish we could bottle this experience and share it with newbies as a right of passage.
 
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This thread is awesome!!! Ahmed Robbins hahahhahaha, TAKE MY INTERNET MONEY!!!!!!

For those of you that are unaware (literally everyone I imagine), Calgary is divided into 4 quadrants. The NE is typically heavily ethnic, lower income, slightly more crime, etc.

Basically you only live in the NE if you can't afford to live anywhere else.

Meeting the best mentor in Calgary in a basement in the NE... you win the internet for today my friend!!!
 

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AHAHAHAHAH, You guys are all funny,

Funny how you guys criticize "World Ventures", if World Ventures was such a "Scam" then why are they opening there own Airlines and own fleet of Airplanes? Funny enough, "Expedia" is being bought out by World Ventures. Expedia did about $157 Billion in sales last year and World Ventures did around $397 Billion? You guys are entitled to your own opinion but the real fool is you Slowlanejay. You were telling people how you are an entrepreneur?? yet you don't even have anything to back you up? You just read shit on this forum and call yourself some entrepreneur because you have a little more knowledge then people who work at jobs? You have no business experience, you said you were going to open up a online moving company stating that it was going to be a portal where people click on your website so you can make a quick buck for doing Jack shit? Business is about helping others people, you're taking away. Everyone there felt bad for you. I feel so bad for you, missing out on such a good opportunity. The Business honestly doesn't even need you, your the one who needed it. Clearly you lack maturity and self confidence, since you are so easy to point fingers and judge people. World Ventures will never be out of Business because it is "Travel", everybody's goals are to travel around the world. You guys can go to bora bora or wherever you want in the world for full retail price, Expedia,travelocity, hotwire, and all those other "Companies" that you think are so cheap. I'll go on my World Ventures and book a ticket for 50% off what Expedia sells you. @MJ DeMarco Your book is great and all, but what you say about MLM is true about some companies, not "ALL". So next time you want to hate on MLM, look at yourself aswell. Your book isn't any different from any other Success book, your book is just regurgitated shit from all the other books.
 
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One of my real businesses works closely with Expedia. I'm also a shareholder. World Ventures is not buying Expedia wtf are you talking about??

World Ventures did not do 400 billion dollars lmao. That would make it the size of Exxon-Mobil.. Never even heard of that WV shit until you mentioned it.

Please ban this douchenozzle.

@SlowlaneJay is super well traveled actually. We haven't yet met, but we've chatted plenty and he seems like a great guy with a lot to offer. You, on the other hand, seem to be really insecure and seem like you have something to prove.

Bye bye.

He's now on my ignore list. Somebody tell me when he gets banned lol.
 
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Sad part for this guy is we would have loved him to hang around. He wouldn't have gotten booted for being a proponent of MLM, but I had to boot him for being an a$$. You don't come into someone else's house and shit on their couch.

 
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Exactly. 'Hey MJ, great book, but your book is regurgitated shit.' LOL, what?

Before being banned we should have asked him how much he made to date on WorldVentures. MJ probably spent that much on a nice dinner this week.

When you attack the boss, you get to deal with the minions.

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Yeah. You get to deal with the minions.

Hey, wait. What?
 
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the real fool is you Slowlanejay
Yes.

Everyone there felt bad for you
Awww, thanks guys! :) Maybe I'll be smarter one day and you won't have to feel so bad for me. Your support is appreciated.

I feel so bad for you, missing out on such a good opportunity
Shucks. You're probably right. How could I have been so stupid? Is it too late to sign up?

The Business honestly doesn't even need you, your the one who needed it
Did I? Damn. Here I thought I needed to build my own business. You've taught me so much.

Clearly you lack maturity and self confidence
You know, you're actually right here. I've addressed your other comments with sarcasm, but I won't here.

Of all of your points, this was the most true. Maturity and self-confidence have been demons that I've battled for a long time. I feel like I've made some progress, but there's still a long road ahead of me.

You were right to call me out on how I spoke, though try to understand that I was mad. I didn't like being tricked, and I didn't like sitting in a room full of people who were also being tricked. I was told there would be successful entrepreneurs there. There weren't, I was upset, and I lashed out.

I apologize for any offense.

Best of luck!
J
 

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The following is for the sake of those who may come later and read this thread.

Notice how the OP had to BLATANTLY LIE about this meeting. A mastermind? ORLY? In other words, his first impression, his opening salvo was deception.

Folks, if your product/business model sucks so bad that you have to LIE as an opening, you really should do rethink about what you're doing.

World Ventures will never be out of Business

I agree. And that's because they have a never ending supply of young-and-dumb numbskulls chasing a dream that's likened to playing craps in the casino... meanwhile, the casino is laughing all the way to the bank.

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@SlowlaneJay went to a WV meetup about 5 years ago before I even knew what a MLM was. They had a Chiropractor as the head mastermind people definitely gained a sense of legitimacy from that. Almost glad I went to learn from the experience and know what to avoid at all costs
 
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I'm going to reply to this since I'm pissed at WorldVentures for the following:
  • Conning my friends to waste their money (it was $300-$400)
  • Making it f'ing awkward to try and convince my other friends not to join at their meetup
  • Wasting my time by not telling me what the hell it was about until that stupid video of ppl partying in aqua coloured clothing was done (I actually thought it was a party company like contiki the whole time the video played lol)
Only good thing to happen was that we had plenty of beers after the WV ppl left....

If World Ventures was such a "Scam" then why are they opening there own Airlines and own fleet of Airplanes? Funny enough, "Expedia" is being bought out by World Ventures.
You need to learn how to use Google. That is simply not true. I'm guessing you also believe all those 'awards' that WV won? Google it, they are not real.

Expedia did about $157 Billion in sales last year and World Ventures did around $397 Billion?
Have you even looked at those numbers? They are comical.

Real revenue numbers in 2013
WV - $195M....they would be lucky to hit 1B in 2014/15 let alone $157 impossibillions
http://www.businessforhome.org/2014/04/worldventures-revenue-195-million-in-2013/
Expedia - $4.8B
http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/earnings/earnings.asp?ticker=EXPE

Business is about helping others people, you're taking away.
You're worldventures is taking time and money away from people! The moment you sign up with your friends, you are in direct competition with them to recruit more and more people! Not a great model.
Btw, if any of your referrals quit, you have to find a replacement one or your monthly fees start again. You really should just quit now.

Oh and when someone tells you "everyone listen, this is not a pyramid scheme. WorldVentures has a left and right side teams, so therefore it is not a pyramid scheme" and a minute later ppl are lining up in their left/right side teams. They should probably tweak that pitch better .... :headbanger:

You guys can go to bora bora or wherever you want in the world for full retail price, Expedia,travelocity, hotwire, and all those other "Companies" that you think are so cheap. I'll go on my World Ventures and book a ticket for 50% off what Expedia sells you.
Again, google it. It took me 5mins to compare the Rovia rates with Expedia for a few trips while I was in the bathroom hiding from the worldventure crazies. NOT one rovia trip was cheaper than expedia.

So instead of "you should be here" , how about "you should all stay there!" ....in that basement :upyours:
 

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LOL

This just in, random bullshit MLM does SIX TIMES MORE REVENUE THAN GOOGLE!!!!!!!

Congratulations OP, you and your sap mates are exactly the kind of people these guys are looking for

Hook, line and sinker
 

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I propose a new tag and code word... [HASHTAG]#CalgaryMastermind[/HASHTAG] -- the new synonym for an MLM.
 
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