7 Years on this forum - The Fastlane Journey through Life - Final Post

[biophase]

By June of 2014, my iOS app company took of, and I finally quit my job and was earning 5-figures per month. This was only after they were rejected 16 times. That company is now up to 1.3 million downloads (and not something I work on anymore)

In June 2016...
I ran out of money and went homeless in the middle of a foreign country.

The day after my 30th birthday, I was left in the streets in the middle of Manchester, UK - facing my worst fears.

Having to move back with my parents after quitting my job.

So I spent the first half of 2017 just kind of building my business as I wanted to - making sales as they came in - maintaining things until I figured out what I wanted to do in life.

Andrew, here in lies I think your biggest issue... and it is absolutely the #1 thing that MJ despises more than politics. I'm so glad that you came clean and posted this on the forum.

You had an IOS business that you started in 2014 that failed in 2016. You were broke in 2016-2017. Yet, you felt that you were qualified enough to start a coaching business with this title:

Are You Struggling to Find a Business Idea?
Move Forward with Absolute Certainty That the Product You Choose Will Succeed

See anything wrong with that? On your landing page there is some seriously cringe worthy stuff. You began to stretch the truth with everything that you did and people who knew you could not read your stuff anymore. We were always wondering when you'd see the light. And we knew that one day this was coming where you ventured into the point of no return on the forum.

I'm writing this as my last post to you. You've come a long way in 7 years, but I'd say that 3 years of it was going in the wrong direction.

I feel like you've been in this make-believe world for the past 3 years where you are thinking you are this person and everyone else sees a totally different person. You justify who you are and what you are doing by one or two sentence results from an interaction that occurred a day ago.

I still don't feel that you get it. Leaving the forum a few years doesn't do much good if you are still going the wrong direction. I know you want to help people. So go help people by doing it, not by exaggerating your accomplishments to sell a book or course that you may not be qualified to write. Ask yourself, is that really helping people? Or are you doing it for money because you are broke? You need to be true to yourself when answering this question.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

After I make this post, I will be logging off of this Forum for a while.

Of course you are.

I seriously need to be a psychic. I predicted this response yesterday after @Vigilante deleted your latest post in the "authentic man" thread and you failed to answer any hard-nosed questions there, I knew your next post would be "I'm leaving."

How did I know?

Well, from my standpoint, you've become a POS bro-marketing duplicitous douche-bag. And POS bro-marketing duplicitous douche-bags have no use for a forum they can't use as a lead-channel. Your credibility here is shot. And since the forum is no longer useful as a lead-channel (and your credibility blown) you can't sell your guru courses, your books, and your "whatever I can sell so I can travel the world and take pictures in coffee shops" -- you throw up your "I'm leaving."

Of course I could be wrong.

But when it comes to human behavior on this forum and uncovering true motives, I'm batting 1.000. In the last several years, you've contributed little to the forum discussion other than your own self-created topics which serve as a lead-channel for your various bro-marketing ventures.

I allowed it because I knew you were just finding your way.

I saw your determination and your search for knowledge. I considered you a friend and gave you latitude, moreso than some stranger who would just pop in and post.

But then it changed when you suddenly became this omnipotent self-proclaimed expert in everything, from women, to psychology, to starting a business with a product that can't lose!

and it is absolutely the #1 thing that MJ despises more than politics.

Yes absolutely.

And it pains me to have to call Andrew out on it. Especially when he is a fan of my work. Having to "call out" someone who thought TMF was instrumental in their life is difficult. But then again, when someone resorts to bro-marketing BS as their answer to TMF , did they really comprehend the material?

He's broke in 2017. And in 2018 he's selling some guru course on dream fulfillment. You can't make this stuff up.

You began to stretch the truth with everything that you did and people who knew you could not read your stuff anymore.

And here's the thing...

The people MOST CRITICAL to Andrew actually have MET him in real life. We aren't some anonymous keyboard warriors on the other side of the planet that Andrew never met. Andrew has been to my house many times for poker night. Face to face conversation, not carefully selected internet prose. The people who have cited concerns are people that know Andrew and have had actual physical and conversational interactions with him.

We see the game he's playing.

And as biophase said, he's gone the wrong direction.

His heart is in the right place.

But just because your heart is in the right place, doesn't justify your behavior, or justify the means to the end.

When Robin Hood steals from the rich, his heart is also in the right place.

 

[Vigilante]

And here folks, in a parting post, is a glimpse of the real, authentic Andrew that is still in there somewhere. Aside from the lights, the press, and the BS sits a dude who many here had positive interactions with over the years. This. This is the storyteller that I hope writes that book some day. This is the Andrew we all cheered for.

Strip away the NLP, the wanna be guru, and the carefully crafted pose and you have a good, honest dude who has been on a journey of self discovery.

Life is a journey, a book of many chapters. My sincere best wishes for the next chapter of your journey. May you find what you are looking for.

"If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours." - Henry David Thoreau

 

[AndrewNC]

This post is my thank you to @MJ DeMarco for what his book has done to change my life.

After I make this post, I will be logging off of this Forum for a while.

I have a lot of work responsibilities and I have to commit my time and energy exclusively to that.

This final message is a testimonial about how reading The Millionaire Fastlane has changed my life.

7 Years After Reading the Book

In 2011, I was 25 years old, obese, broke, unemployed, and living in my parents retirement home in rural North Carolina. I had no confidence, motivation, or direction in life. I never even knew what entrepreneurship was.

When things couldn't get any worse - I picked up a copy of The Millionaire Fastlane by MJ DeMarco.

It inspired me that my past or current circumstances did not dictate my future. That no matter how bad my life was in this moment, things can change.

That no matter how dark the darkness I was looking through, and no matter how long the dark tunnel was in front of me, it was this book that lit up a small glimmer of light in the distant future.

That yes, indeed - something more in this life is possible for me.

Whatever that glimmer of light is when your journey begins, move towards it, because what you seek is there, and you can do it.

Six months after reading this book, I drove 2,000 miles across the country to have lunch with @biophase down to the last $250 to my name

Our mutual friend at the time (through this forum) @Trevor Kuntz and I connected on facebook and suggested that if I was in Scottsdale ever - we all could get lunch together. -

After some back and forth debate, I realized that the life I was living was not working out for me, so I needed to take this change. I took whatever money I had left (it was about $250 and a $500 limit credit card) and did what may parents said I was crazy to do.

The only reason I had money when I moved to Scottsdale is because I bet it all at Talking Stick Casino and won $2,000 in poker.

After bragging to biophase about 'how much money I made' (a dude who was legit killing it in business at the time - and still is), the best advice he gave me was to stop gambling (and get a job). But, Kenric, it was through your travel videos on Vimeo that inspired me to take this leap.

You posted these videos of you living a kick-a$$ live and traveling the world.

There was one that stood out. You lived in Scottsdale, Arizona most of the year and spent the summer in Colorado - mountain biking through the mountains. In the place I was at that time of my life, that was the only one that I would ever think to be possible for someone like me.

After moving across the country to chase my dreams, I worked in customer service for two years for a shitty used car finance company. I spent my days hating my life, locking myself in my bedroom on weekends and nights on my computer, read this forum every day, read a lot of books such as cashvertising, the four hour workweek, built to sell, and others like that.

The only problem is that I was talking about it, learning about it, dreaming about it...

But I wasn't actually building a business.

I had no confidence in myself and had no clue where to start. I had very little direction and guidance, so I was left frustrated and stuck where I was. Reading stories of people on this forum knowing that the life was out there - doubting every single day if that life was possible for me.

Eventually I formed a skype mastermind group with @wade1mil @JasonR and @TheTruth - Three of us eventually moving in an apartment together in Scottsdale, Arizona.

The main benefits there was an accountability group that forcefully kept me accountable no matter how much I wanted to slack off. Also we committed to one idea for 6 months, despite how many failures we faced.

Their businesses took off first, and seeing Jason build his business so fast provided me the true belief that it might be possible...for someone like me. He was just getting started out like I was at the time too.

When we see stories of those people already being successful, it doesn't do anything for your confidence in your own abilities until you see someone else who is walking beside you start having success.

This is why mastermind groups with your peers is so effective.

It's also important to have the right mentors. Aside from going out and playing poker monthly with the Scottsdale Fastlaner crowd, we also had a millionaire mentor who flew into the city and mentored us on occasion.

Something never felt right about that guy and a rift was torn between me and the group of people who closely followed him. I sensed something was off the first time I met him.

During this experience, I realized that you should always trust your gut.

I won't say anything more about that.

Trust. Your. Gut.

After 2.5 years of failing, the following thing led me to my first business 'success': Focus on one thing through all the failures, until one da you accidentally don't fail.

By June of 2014, my iOS app company took of, and I finally quit my job and was earning 5-figures per month. This was only after they were rejected 16 times. That company is now up to 1.3 million downloads (and not something I work on anymore)

During this time in my life, I decided to look back at the newer members of this forum and started making posts about mindset. To give them the belief that something like I accomplished would be possible for them, regardless of how bad they were went they started out.

It's one thing to hear people tell you it's possible, but it's a whole different thing to really 100% truly believe that it's possible for you too.

I wrote my first book documenting my experiences up until this point of building my first business. The mindset shifts I made.

I finally accomplished the impossible and quit my job in Phoenix and lived in Colorado for 6 months, where I didn't work, slept in late, hiked through the mountains, and partied with the college crowd late into the night. Life was stressful for the past 2.5 years, so I decided to make up for lost time.

A girl I went to college with visited and we went horseback riding through Wyoming and hiking through Rocky Mountain National Park.

After my first business took off; I noticed a lot of the things that were promised to me with the 'external vision of success' wore off over time.

I still lacked confidence, social skills, and control of my mindset, emotions, and habits.

So I became obsessed with hypnosis and NLP. It made a really transformative shift in my life. While most people scoff at the NLP 'for influence', it is hands down the most important tool in my life for achieving my goals when you use it for your own personal development.

All those habits, fears, qualities, etc. - when you put it to use - are more power than anybody can imagine. I pushed hard to promote it here because that was the thing that made the shift in my own internal habits of entrepreneurs.

And to not mistake this for a personal plug, hands down I would suggest getting trained in this by NLP.com - under the direction of Dr. Matt James. I took my Practitioner and Master Practitioner certifications trainings with him.

http://www.nlp.com/

They only did training seminars across the country when I got trained in it, but I think they have a program online now.

So 3 years into my Fastlane journey - I not only was able to build a business I never thought to be possible, but I also began taking more control of my mindset, emotions, habits and outlook on life.

For the next few years of my life, I was traveling all across the United States. I started a new business to help people through all the past struggles I faced, hoping to deliver quicker solutions. I began making marketplace postings on this forum, I did youtube paid ads, created udemy courses, and did other marketing to offer services for this business part time.

But mainly I was traveling.

My apps crashed in October 2015 and I lost all of my money from my first business. This led to a massive buildup of stress while I was traveling through Seattle, and I was in and out of doctors offices all winter due to heart palpitations and night sweats.

The lesson I learned here was that you should control your spending (and eating) habits when your business takes off. If you go around spending more than you make, and don't track your finances - you'll hit a shitty point like this too.

This is advice I was given - but it really wasn't important to me or something I thought I should listen to - until shit hit the fan.

I lived with my parents for a few months in that time frame because I was not well-enough to do anything. Spent most of my time in bed recovering.

Finally, a doctor prescribed me a bottle of anti-depressants.

With an entrepreneur spirit, I went out determined to find a natural solution. I studied under a psychology with 26 years of experience in rapid emotional release techniques. He cured my stress in 5 minutes.

I talk about this a lot, but I can't stress enough how important it is. The Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) on YouTube is a serious go-to tool for releasing an unhealthy buildup of negative emotions, and it really only does take about 5 minutes.

This tool alone prevented me from slipping back into depression, which plagued me for 2 years or my life before reading The Millionaire Fastlane . Whenever I saw someone struggling with emotions on this forum, I began posting a link.

All of a sudden those books such as The Power of Now seemed like bullshit, because with real psychology techniques - that is where I noticed the real changes in my life. Not only when 'things were wrong' with me in terms of stress...but in terms of normal emotional balance, performance, overcoming habits, and performance-based changes.

That's when I grew passionate about sharing that.

@Andy Black continued to tell me 'to only help those in motion', but it was a passion of mine to help those who were stuck, like I once was up until this point on my journey. I didn't listen to him and kept pushing forward, at the expense of my business growth.

In June 2016 marked the two year anniversary of quitting my job and I fell in love for the first time.

I met the most amazing woman of my life, but I didn't have what it takes to attract her and I ultimately pushed her away. In that moment, in 2016 - I was at a different rock bottom in my life, in terms of being a man, personal development, and growth in the relationships area of my life.

Before reading TMF , I would have cried about it and feel like I was stuck forever. But with this new empowerment mindset through these experiences, I knew that I could transform and grow. So improving relationships became a core interest of mine.

I lost a lot of weight, I went out (finally), I personally interviewed the CEO of the largest dating companies in the world, and used the psychology stuff on me to release my 'inner baggage' - all that shit from being bullied in the past, rejected, fear of talking to girls, social anxiety -and I worked through that in 3 weeks.

All of a sudden, I gained confidence.

A month later, I met a girl who became the first girlfriend I had in 8 years, and we began to travel the world together. When I flew over there, shit hit the fan. She was batshit crazy, tried to lock me in an apartment, and at once point I was seriously thinking she was going to stab me.

Needless to say, I left her and I was standing all by myself in a foreign country.

For the next 3 months of my life, I was traveling the world (western part of Europe) by myself. I used to be really shy and nervous talking to women, and I saw this most beautiful girl taking photos of the landscape in the distance.

I got learned how to provide myself enough motivation to speak to her, despite always fearing rejections (approach anxiety) in the past. What I thought would have led to sure rejection turned into a dream day in paradise together.

We went geocaching up the side of a mountain, toured the city together, had drinks, walked barefoot on the beach together, dinner, and went on random adventures into cathedrals. It was absolutely amazing.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNPV5PiUzeE


5 Years after Reading The Millionaire Fastlane

I am having this dream day in paradise with one of the most amazing girls I ever met in my life, and began my travels of the world as a digital nomad entrepreneur.

With my sudden boost in confidence, and being motivated to stay in shape, I began attracting women that would never even talk to me in the past. Mixed with all the other things that stemmed from reading this book, I reached the point where I lived out every single one of my wildest dreams in life.

• I built an app company that has over 1.3 million downloads.
• I managed to completely turn my negative mindset around.
• I traveled all across the United States.
• Got to travel internationally.

I also faced my worst fears.

I ran out of money and went homeless in the middle of a foreign country.

The day after my 30th birthday, I was left in the streets in the middle of Manchester, UK - facing my worst fears.

But somehow, in the toughest of situations - I was stress-free.

None of this would have been possible in the past version of myself.

In the most toughest of times, I had a positive mindset, I put all the resourcefulness I had together and found a way to make things work out. I met up with a girl on Tinder and lived with her for a week, after then; I found a way to hustle for some money and make things work out.

I found friends in Europe to stay with and eventually made things work out. Getting my business on track again.

This is the moment in my life where every single one of my worst fears in life unfolded:

• Getting in debt after quitting my job.
• Having to move back with my parents after quitting my job.
• Facing serious medical problems in a stat where I had no insurance after quitting my job.
• Going homeless in the foreign country without any resources.

This is the moment where the advice from some of my people in terms of "Burning the Boats" led me to facing one of the worst failures possible.

And I would do it over 100 times in a heartbeat if I had to make that choice again.

Because the real benefit of the progress you make as a fastlaner is the capabilities you develop and who you become.

In that moment, I realized that no matter what happens to me on the outside, no matter how bad my circumstances are, I am capable of handling anything.

Now, I look back at all those little fears I used to have - and they were nothing that should have ever stranded in the way of me chasing my dreams. Shit happens, you learn how to deal with it, and you move on. Some people crumble under pressure and that could destroy them, so take a hard look at who you are before you take risks like quitting your job of 'burning the boats'.

Then, when nothing is left.

And then, one late night in Amsterdam Central (train station)...

I just finished spending the night parting with two younger-20's models I met a few hours earlier. It's now five years after reading the millionaire fastlane , I reached the point where I lived out every single one of my wildest dreams that I ever had from my younger 20's.

And I also lived out every single one of my worst fears.

A lot of the things I thought I wanted and would make me happy in my life no longer mattered anymore 'money just for the hell of it' 'models' 'travel' 'nice cars'. Freedom is the true benefit for personal desires. The rest are great, but after I achieved everything I never even thought to be possible in my life; something was still missing.

I asked myself..

What the hell am I going to do next?

In this point, I fell into a slight funk.

I no longer strived after making the money. I no longer really cared about the personal benefits. The travel, the freedom, etc. - meant less to me then they did.

So I spent the first half of 2017 just kind of building my business as I wanted to - making sales as they came in - maintaining things until I figured out what I wanted to do in life.

I moved back to Boulder, Colorado - because the women I fell in love with could not leave my heart for the life of me. The only thing that mattered to me in life was her - and she meant more than anything to me. The only problem, since we parted ways and dated other people - she just got engaged now being a few years later.

So I reached the point of 'what's important to me in life'.

I began experimenting with different types of things - business wise, etc. and got involved with the animal rights community. I don't feel passionate about the activism part - but the leaders of one of the largest groups did a weekend training on the topic of setting your Vision in life.

Reflecting back on the only thing that was meaningful to me...true love with a women you care for and she cares for you too.

I decided to write a book to help other men through my journey in relationships.

While at the conference with the visionary, he said that "Your tactics, goals, and strategies may change, but the Vision you set for yourself is timeless and will never change."

7 years after I read The Millionaire Fastlane , this is where I'm at.

I have a vision in life that I won't stop at anything to make a reality.

I have the experience, skills, and capabilities to build it quicker than my first time around the block.

I have the resourcefulness and self-confidence to go out there and know that I'll succeed in anything I do, and that I can learn new things If I don't know how to do them. Or to go out there and find someone to teach me.

I have a very successful personal mentor here in Colorado who is where I want to be in life - and I am taking the guidance of him to help me navigate from solo-preneuer to the point where I grow and scale into a larger company.

I know exactly what I am doing, what steps to take to get there, and the reference experiences from my past to continue pressing forward through the failures and adversity - no longer letting me slow that down.

I have never been more motivated and driven to accomplish what Im setting out to accomplish in my business and my purpose in life to help others behind this journey on me.

I am in one of the best shapes of my life, I am eating healthier than ever, I have a great group of friends, and have full control of my emotions, mindset, and habits in life.

And this morning, I just went on one of the best dates of my life.



We just made plans to travel to India, New Zeland, and Thailand together.

To find a girl who is more into Law of Attraction and NLP than I am, and someone who is naturally attracted to me for who I am at my core.

My final words before I log off from here...

Reading The Millionaire Fastlane and joining this forum was the thing that propelled me out of the worst times in my life to the point where I have achieved personal results that I never thought to be possible for me. Life of my dreams.

And it can do the same for you.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004BDOUAI/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

Thank you for everyone who I met from this forum who I talked to or crossed paths over these year.

And thank you MJ for doing what you do.

I am going to log off of this forum now because I have a lot of work responsibilities that will take up a full schedule and I have to put my energy into that for the foreseeable future.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

If you cared about helping others you would document your journey and be transparent with everyone.

Pretty simple formula eh?

GrumpyCat did the exact same thing when people sensed he wasn't being honest. Instead of taking the time to shut down the doubts, he just bailed. Now I doubt everything he's told me.

Ah yes, Grumpy Cat, a very similar scenario, and outcome.

I've been here 10 years running this place.

You see a lot over the years.

And you learn to recognize patterns. And those patterns are immune from forum badges such as Legendary Contributor, INSIDERS, or whatever.

One of those patterns is the ease in which you spot bull-shitters.

Some bull-shitters turn their bull-shit into a business.

And when bull-shitters get caught on their bullshit here at the forum, their response is always the same, 100%, guaranteed...

"I'm leaving." (Complete with a departure post.)

With how the "Well-Defined Man" thread degenerated and exposed him, I knew right then he would exit stage right. No less than 24 hours later and boom, just like clockwork, we get this thread.

But one must wonder, as stated in the wise words of Yoda, "If so powerful you are, why leave?"

Why pretend he's leaving because he's busy, when everyone knows the real reason he's leaving? Andrew can never be straight with people.

He's leaving because the forum is no longer useful to him ... he wants us to believe he was contributing here for the sake of helping others, but it really was for the sake of whatever bro-marketing scheme he needed a lead-channel for.

Now that's gone, he's gone. It's not like the forum suddenly has no one here who needs help, even the kind of help Andrew can provide, as such as NLP, beliefs, etc.

What makes our forum unique is that I can say, without a doubt, 98% of our contributors are contributing for the sake of community and being helpful -- there is no ulterior motive of a $2K coaching program working in the background, or a book about how to be beautiful and sexy while toting a backpack in your sweatpants.

Either Andrew suddenly got super busy and no longer has time for the forum (only just several hours after his long dominatrix post in the Well Defined Man thread)...

-- OR --

... the forum no longer offers the grease Andrew needs to lube his delusional identity and corresponding bro-marketing programs.

Which is most likely?

 

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[AgainstAllOdds]

7 years later and you're worse off than when you started.

Because now not only are you headed in the wrong direction, but you're filled with an extreme sense of false confidence and arrogance that will only dig your hole deeper.

Take @Vigilante 's advice. Take @biophase 's advice.

Change your life. Get headed back in the right direction.

Your real final post on this forum (which got your "well defined man" thread locked and the post deleted), was a display of that severe misguidance. You lacked confidence with women, so your logic guided you to a dominatrix in Amsterdam for a few weeks, after which you assumed you could conquer the world? Do you see the problem with that thinking pattern?

Now hours after making that post, you make a final final post on this forum which is a "farewell" and supposed to make the forum members here empathize with you. For those that haven't been following you, it probably does. But for those of us that have followed you, it just adds pity.

You start off your final post by saying in the third sentence:

I have a lot of work responsibilities and I have to commit my time and energy exclusively to that.

... which I'm guessing is your continuation of the fake guru bullshit? Which is a continuation of your dating book?

Andrew, you're not qualified to write that dating book. Quit. Start something new. Stop digging the hole deeper. You have an entire thread of people telling you to stop being a fake guru and to put your energy elsewhere. But because of your arrogance, you're pressing on: The Well Defined Man | Authentic Attraction

Your qualification to write that book is none.

And this morning, I just went on one of the best dates of my life.

We just made plans to travel to India, New Zeland, and Thailand together.

Your final post on this forum was of you and some poor unsuspecting girl that you leveraged for internet reputation. Does she know that her face is plastered online to validate your false confidence as a "well defined man"?

You're a charlatan. A fraud.

You're living a lie.

And judging by your last post (now deleted), in dire need of psychiatric help -- but not your fake guru "doctors", real psychiatrists.

Good luck Andrew. I hope you turn things around. But until then, while you continue on your journey of lying to yourself and others, in the spirit of @theag:

 

[SquatchMan]

and partied with the college crowd late into the night.

A girl I went to college with visited and we went horseback riding through Wyoming and hiking through Rocky Mountain National Park.

I met the most amazing woman of my life, but I didn't have what it takes to attract her and I ultimately pushed her away.

A month later, I met a girl who became the first girlfriend I had in 8 years, and we began to travel the world together. When I flew over there, sh*t hit the fan. She was batshit crazy, tried to lock me in an apartment, and at once point I was seriously thinking she was going to stab me.

We went geocaching up the side of a mountain, toured the city together, had drinks, walked barefoot on the beach together, dinner, and went on random adventures into cathedrals. It was absolutely amazing.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNPV5PiUzeE

I am having this dream day in paradise with one of the most amazing girls I ever met in my life, and began my travels of the world as a digital nomad entrepreneur.

I began attracting women that would never even talk to me in the past. Mixed with all the other things that stemmed from reading this book, I reached the point where I lived out every single one of my wildest dreams in life.

I met up with a girl on Tinder and lived with her for a week, after then; I found a way to hustle for some money and make things work out.

I just finished spending the night parting with two younger-20's models I met a few hours earlier. It's now five years after reading the millionaire fastlane , I reached the point where I lived out every single one of my wildest dreams that I ever had from my younger 20's.

I moved back to Boulder, Colorado - because the women I fell in love with could not leave my heart for the life of me. The only thing that mattered to me in life was her - and she meant more than anything to me. The only problem, since we parted ways and dated other people - she just got engaged now being a few years later.

This makes me cringe. She had found someone else and long forgotten about you and she was still the only thing that mattered to you. Dude, you're 30 years old.

And this morning, I just went on one of the best dates of my life.

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We just made plans to travel to India, New Zeland, and Thailand together.

To find a girl who is more into Law of Attraction and NLP than I am, and someone who is naturally attracted to me for who I am at my core.

Reflecting back on the only thing that was meaningful to me...true love with a women you care for and she cares for you too.

You mention meeting women more times than a normal man would. The only reason I can think of is that you put women on this massive pedestal and make validation from women, and random men on the internet, your life mission. I want to hear business stuff:

What value did your iOS businesses provide?
What was your process behind getting so many downloads?
What caused the business to fail?
Didn't you have a magazine or something, what caused that to fail?
What problem did the magazine solve?
How did you start your businesses?
Why did you start your businesses?
Why don't you start another iOS or app business?

You claim to have made 5 figures a month. That's 6 figures a year. Assuming that all this is true, I don't understand why you haven't gone into that vertical again.

Ignore women. What the hell have you been doing the past two years to move your business forward?

From what I've read it seems like you literally chased women across two continents and went broke.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Thread closed.

Please report any new Andrew postings.

He isn't banned, but I'm not gonna let him post around here as if we are his loyal audience subject to his theories and self-indulgent narcissism. At this point it's like watching a cocaine addict ... sure we'll keep the door open for a possible intervention, but he ain't gonna snort the drugs in our house.

 

[Vigilante]

I can deal with people with a genuine heart. Those most often are people that make it into my inner circle.

I can also deal with snakes. A mentor of mine once told me that as long as you wear snake handling gloves and proceed with caution, you can handle snakes. Dealing with easily identified bad guys is literally of no concern for me, and they permeate business. I know how to construct walls.

I have found in my life that the most dangerous interactions I have had are with people who present themselves one way, but their core is actually another.

And it is an interesting side note that over the years there have been a couple of spectacular flameouts, and the two largest ones were both NLP brain-washed brain-washers.

 

[JAJT]

After hearing about some of the goings on recently I decided to un-ignore Andrew and do a quick catch-up on things.

Wow. Just wow.

My takeaway: Almost everyone was not only rooting for, but practically begging Andrew to just "come clean" and be genuine. Like a few dozen shepherds trying to get back 1 lost sheep.

Sure there was some sarcasm along the way, and some trolling, but the overall message was practically a Star Wars moment - most folks were seeing "the good inside" this lost soul and begging him to return to the light. A dozen outstretched hands being slapped away and those dozen hands coming back to try again.

Even the hard-hitting & extremely blunt posts dripped with more respect than you gave them in return - it was patient explanation after patient argument after patient example - for pages and pages. No matter how much you ignored and pressed on they kept trying to guide you. These are folks who didn't respect what you were doing AT ALL but respected YOU enough to calmly and patiently explain why.

Man. I hope you find your way back one day.

 

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[biophase]

You mention meeting women more times than a normal man would. The only reason I can think of is that you put women on this massive pedestal and make validation from women, and random men on the internet, your life mission. I want to hear business stuff:

From what I've read it seems like you literally chased women across two continents and went broke.

Dude, your summary was great. In his farewell post he mentions 9 different women. And to be honest, there is nothing wrong with that... HOWEVER when your summary of your last 7 years mention 9 different women, a first girlfriend in 8 years, afraid your are gonna get stabbed by gf, traveling the world with women you just met...

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO THINK THAT YOU COULD WRITE A BOOK CALLED THE WELL DEFINED MAN!

I cannot fathom how in his brain he thinks that he is qualified to write that book. He just laid out his last 7 years with women. His own words. This is why he went burning down in flames.

Be self aware!

 

[Andy Black]

@AndrewNC

I got the line “Help the people in motion” from an article by Amy Hoy.

I got another great line from James Schramko recently where I heard him say: “You can’t steer a parked car.”

You’re certainly in motion, now you just have to keep adjusting the steering on your journey.


BTW... I highly recommend Derek Sivers wee audio book “Anything You Want”.

In the first few minutes he says:

“Success comes from persistently improving and inventing, not from persistently promoting what’s not working.”


Keep improving.

Keep inventing.

Keep moving.

Good luck on your journey.



(Yes, my guilty pleasure is that I collect quotes.)

 

[Azure]

Your final post on this forum was of you and some poor unsuspecting girl

Uhh, she isn't unsuspecting bro.

Remember they made plans to travel the world in enternal bliss?

After
One
Date

 

[csalvato]

I'm going to repost what I originally posted, then deleted.

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For 2 years of my entrepreneurial journey, I was on a path of of deception. First of myself, then of others.

It was tough. It took me about 2 years to recover from it.

In my case, I had pursued businesses where I was not being authentic to myself. In many cases, I was faking-it-till-I-make-it a little too hard.

I convinced myself, superficially, that I was one person, when I was really another. Deeper down, I knew I was a lie. I was...

...running affiliate traffic to something I didn't believe was helping people.

...sitting in at BNI meetings selling a service, getting the distinct vibe that no one wanted me there.

...talking to people on sales calls, then not being able to follow through on my promises.

My rock bottom was selling someone a website for $5000 after a 25 minute phone call (I got pretty good at the high pressure sale). Then, after they paid me, they disappeared before I did any work for them.

My theory: he was embarrassed to have paid a charlatan.

Luckily, in my journey, a close friend who is wildly authentic invited me to apply for a job at a company where he was an early employee. His vouching for me got me a relatively high paying job.

I was lucky enough to be immersed with someone who can be wildly authentic, who cared about my success. He worked with me through hard times where I was totally deceiving myself, and pissing off everyone around me.

I had to learn what it means to be authentic all over again. Luckily, I corrected and was able to establish real human connection again for the first time in years. One year after working with him, I built a team around me, that would now follow me to hell and back.

It was hard.

In entrepreneurship, I believe that it is very easy to go in the wrong direction. Very very easy. And recovering from it is necessarily painful and brutal.

In my case, I needed years away from this forum to get rid of all the copy-focused bullshit to learn how to really connect with people again. I also needed someone who believed in me to help me through it.

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I talked with Andrew last night on Facebook. I consider him a close friend. And I think there are ways he can use his vast knowledge to help others and better represent himself.

But the first step is to hit alignment. Know who you are, and who you are not. And accept that you're perfect either way.

Then your authenticity shines through, and guides you. People will find your integrity irresistible, and your vulnerability refreshing.

IMHO, that's a great general lesson, and observers of this thread and others can take that lesson, as opposed to viewing it as a beatdown of some a**hole with an agenda – something I don't think applies 100% to Andrew.

 

[biophase]

Traveling the world is not expensive. There’s no way someone would go broken traveling the world in moderation if they had a 5-figure location independent monthly income.

You know how you go broke traveling the world? When you don’t have any money when you start and you have no income while you travel.

 

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[Vigilante]

This is one of my problems with Andrew. He never wants to admit what's really going on, and he thinks he's fooling people when he does that.

When he went after @Vigilante in one of his threads, he pretended like that's not what he was doing. He has this passive aggressive way of being a dick to people.

If you have a problem with someone just say so, rather than try to pretend like you're actually asking for feedback.

Like this thread. Why pretend he's leaving because he's busy, when everyone knows the real reason he's leaving? Andrew can never be straight with people.

It's like he always has this hidden agenda behind what he does, except it's not that hidden cause everyone can see it.

Nobody ever really leaves. Rest assured he's read every word of these responses, probably multiple times.

 

[S.Y.]

I've been here long enough to see a couple of these, as well as the mysterious uberDisappearance, and here's what I fundamentally don't understand: The anonymity of a forum like this is one of the great things to take advantage of. You can be transparent and ask for help in ways that you might not be able to with your coworkers or even family in some cases. If nobody knows you, then there's no face lost when you document your failures in a threadbare way and ask for help.

I hope some of the young folks and newbies see a flameout like this and say "Maybe I shouldn't waste the opportunity to be straightforward about the challenges I'm facing and the mistakes I make."

Well, there is one person you can't escape from or be anonymous to: yourself.

I posted few months ago a thread to document my progress to becoming a billionaire. You guys can imagine how it went.

I got defensive and took the decision to not log again. I kept thinking about it..
CONSTANTLY!

My arrogance and delusion lead me to taking action. Then to realize I was way off, disrespectful of the grind. I faced myself and came back here a learner.

And humbled.

My .02 for the OP. I know you are reading. Face yourself. Listen to others. Admit defeat. It won't be easy.

But it will pass.

And then it will get better.

 

[G-Man]

I've been here long enough to see a couple of these, as well as the mysterious uberDisappearance, and here's what I fundamentally don't understand: The anonymity of a forum like this is one of the great things to take advantage of. You can be transparent and ask for help in ways that you might not be able to with your coworkers or even family in some cases. If nobody knows you, then there's no face lost when you document your failures in a threadbare way and ask for help.

I hope some of the young folks and newbies see a flameout like this and say "Maybe I shouldn't waste the opportunity to be straightforward about the challenges I'm facing and the mistakes I make."

 

[MitchC]

As far as I know from reading his posts Andrew discovered a way to hack the ranking system in the news stand on the app store, kind of like what people did with google back in the day. And just the same as what happened to the people who did that with google, Andrew lost it all one day in an update.

The way he made money off his magazines was promoting affiliate offers. I cant help but think that if he had learned how to create real businesses that provide value (like what JasonR, who he said he was living with and who inspired him), in each niche he had a magazine promoting offers in(or even just one), they would have had a huge kickstart and would still be doing well today.

However he didn't do that, and now, still has no idea how to create a real business or provide real value, yet is teaching people how to.

None of his results are "I became a millionaire with his coaching he taught me exactly what to do from his vast experience". His "results", even the one he was so proud of in his well defined man thread that he used to defend himself, are literally "I talked to a guy who was down and he felt better the next day". That kickstarter book cover makes me sick, hes taken credit for all that persons hard work to raise that money, yet how much impact did he really have? how much more could that guy have made with proper advice from someone who's built a real business and made millions on kickstarter.

Also, I'm not sure if its NLP or what, but I have read something about returning to your comfort zone. Not sure how its worded exactly. Like lotto winners who lose all their money and go back to their old job. Theres a theory that they subconsciously did it deliberately because thats where they saw themselves.

I cant help but think, that despite all of his NLP, if you read Andrews story, he was broke, living at home, chasing a girl, and trying to get rich quick selling affiliate crap online, and then he managed to trick apple, now he was rich, travelling, and partied once near 2 models. Then subconsciously, despite all his NLP, he's ruined it all, he's back to his comfort zone, he's in his old city, with his parents, chasing the same girl, broke and trying to make money selling affiliate crap online.

Also I'd be interested to know how successful the girl who is "just as into NLP and LOA as he is" is.

You need to get your hands dirty and build a real business Andrew. Look at where you are and look where Jason is, you started in the same place, what you are doing isn't working. Create real value. Print 1000s of your own custom product by hand. Run ads to real products that don't lie to people, lose $1000s until you find a profitable one. Get copied. Sell the business and do it all over in a new niche. This is the stuff you are claiming you can teach people how to do. Only when you have done it will you have some idea of what you can do. Hughjassle has done it and just from his free threads on this forum I was able to do this. Same with Jason and Biophase and Vig and Vicks threads, not to mention Mjs book.

I actually bought one of your "products" from a marketplace post when I was broke and vulnerable.

You sold me hopes and dreams and a quick fix. I couldn't even go past the third little video. It was rubbish. I didn't complain and ask for a refund because I couldn't be bothered, I knew you would try to say "oh you didn't finish the program how could you know if it works or not?" It was like $20 anyway too so I didn't care.

I'm just ranting now, but seriously, you dont need any help, you dont need anymore NLP, you just need to get your F*cking hands dirty and build a real business, its not easy or fast, but the process, not the event will turn you into a well defined man. That is what you should have taken from Mjs book.

 

[theag]

We aren't some anonymous keyboard warriors on the other side of the planet that Andrew never met.

Hey, I have feelings too!

 

[Vigilante]

Hey, I have feelings too!

No. No you don't.

 

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[theag]

 

[G-Man]

I want to like this guy so badly that I occasionally get drawn in, but then the shark gets jumped every time. It's like watching a politician break into crocodile tears after a tragedy.

Hope things work out for you, dude. I really do.

 

[PedroG]

You had an IOS business that you started in 2014 that failed in 2016. You were broke in 2016-2017. Yet, you felt that you were qualified enough to start a coaching business with this title:

Are You Struggling to Find a Business Idea?
Move Forward with Absolute Certainty That the Product You Choose Will Succeed

See anything wrong with that?

I was gonna post this in the "Well Defined Man" thread but didn't want to pile on.

I paid Andrew for one of his courses. I found the content good, although not well organized, and not really unique.

But I remember telling my wife "I can't figure out if this guy's a bullshitter or not."

I read his claims about 1m app downloads and having had a 700,000 subscriber magazine but I couldn't find any information to see if any of it was true or not. I sensed something was off. I did look up his books on Amazon and found that they had 2 reviews.

Then I wondered, why does Andrew's course include a section on marketing when he can't get more than 2 reviews on Amazon for his books?

As time went on, things started making more and more sense.

There is a difference between hacking your identity to help yourself become who you want to become, and being a bullshitter and lying to those around you.

I think that's where Andrew is confused. He's taken identity hacking a bit too far, and he's convinced himself he's someone he's not. The problem is everyone else can see the truth very clearly.

This isn't the way to go about this, Andrew. Confidence is one thing. Self-delusion is something else entirely.

 

[Ninjakid]

Who should I address here? Andrew because he's probably not gonna read it, or the forum members who will?

Andrew reached out to me when I was at my lowest point. He showed faith in me that I would get better and provided support. I'll always be grateful for that.

I don't know you that well, I've never met you in person. But the opinion among people here who have seems really consistent.

Why would you leave? Just because you're busy? On a new life path? Who here isn't!? If you cared about helping others you would document your journey and be transparent with everyone. But it feels like you're running away from the people who know you well enough to call you on your BS, and that's exactly what you need! GrumpyCat did the exact same thing when people sensed he wasn't being honest. Instead of taking the time to shut down the doubts, he just bailed. Now I doubt everything he's told me.

If you need time to reflect just say so, we'll be here when you get back. Don't act like everything's going all well because it's harder to put up a false front that to be honest. No matter where you run you just end up running into yourself (yes I'm quoting Breakfast at Tiffany's lol).

Stop trying to make women like you and basing your worth on how many dates you get. BE HAPPY WITH YOUR F***ING SELF.

Chasing women and ending up broke all over the world is not the way to a peaceful life, it's the way to a lost and broken life.

Anyways I'm not bashing you. I'm trying to break you out of this shell you've created. Hopefully I can help you and give you hope the way you did for me. If you ever find yourself in Vancouver we can have a cup of tea together and figure out the mysteries of this wonderful vibrant life.

P.S. Please stop posting pics of girls you meet, it's cringeworthy as f*** bro.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Why not just come back?

Authentic Andrew is always welcome back, but not Bro-Marketing Andrew, "I'm an expert at everything and if you don't believe me, well, I did a call last week..." is not.

 

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[Fox]

$2,500 - $3,000 a month is a very realistic budget per month (all in) for most of South America and Europe (not Zurich or Monaco of course). This includes a nice apartment, gym, food, flights, insurance, dates, sightseeing, and good food. It is going to nice places and doing fun things.

You could do it cheaper or you could just learn to make more money and do it right. The difference between spending 1500 and 2500 in a cheaper country is massive. Think amazing sushi a few times a week and a maid versus staying a hostel listening to drunk tourists trying to make toast at 3:20am.

"But Fox you could save all that and invest it in..."

Yes but I am happy taking an extra one or two years to get to my end goal so that I can see a bunch of nice places along the way. I know I could be making more if I locked down in one city and worked hard but I enjoy seeing the world and moving around. For me travel is the end goal so might as well start early

 

[theag]

No. No you don't.

 

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[Greg R]

Pretty simple formula eh?

Ah yes, Grumpy Cat, a very similar scenario, and outcome.

It really makes you wonder...

At what point do you realize that your delusional perspective is what is hindering you from being successful?

He won't change. Will not take anyone's advice. Not accepting of anything other than his own opinion.

He has cultivated many good relationships on the forum.

Unfortunately, leaves it all behind at the first sign of danger.

What the forum exposed was too outside of his reality.

 

[Xeon]

I felt like I "owed" him something because he offered this free training session to help me out and find my way.

Cashvertising, page 60, Cue #4: Reciprocation.