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- Jan 2, 2021
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Good day, my name is John, I am in my 20's and I have a background in IT and Computer Science. If there's anything I'd like to get into is quant trading, and I would very much like advice on what indicators work best when paired together for an expert advisor (MT4) trading strategy
I saw someone mention this forum on reddit as a good place to start learning how to build wealth. The following is my intro but it is also somewhat of a rant revolving around my general experience within "wealth building forums" and the general mindset I see, which is why I believe many (most) users are stuck there for years having made barely any significant progress (or none at all). I can't afford to fall into that rut.
I know a lot of people have this mindset that hard work leads to success, but that's idealist nonsense (I can just feel my inbox about to get flooded with hate mail lol).
If you are honest with yourself you know for a fact real life doesn't work like that, all of these success stories you see touted all the time are the exception to the rule. For every hard work story that led to success there's thousands of stories of people who failed that worked just as hard if not more, but you'll never hear about them, because the winners write the history books, or in this case the autobiographies (and they get the tv show appearances, and they get the amazon best seller ranks, and they get the notoriety, etc).
The difference between failure and success is having access to essential data, key information, knowing where to start or knowing a specific strategy to begin with.
As the known computer science saying goes Garbage In Garbage Out (GIGO).
Not all data and information is useful, you can read 100 books by 100 wealthy authors and still get no key information that leads to you becoming wealthy, especially if they are vague where it counts.
I've spoken to guys who are successful traders (friends of friends) through email, they have a specific trading strategy up their sleeve and key knowledge on the markets they trade on, that's why they are successful. For obvious reasons they say they can't just give me that information (they also say it wouldn't even take long), and I don't blame them, but it's still frustrating knowing that a 5 minute talk with someone could help you leave your job in a month. We are all one conversation away from changing our lives, a conversation that will never happen because nobody wants to help create their own competition or saturate their "niche" (like I said, I can't blame them).
The first few dollars I ever made online were the result of watching a short youtube video. I made barely anything but I liked that the information was specific and it works, more like it did work, doesn't work so well now. Whereas all of the few books and courses I've went through ironically didn't make me a single dollar yet, they failed in comparison to a simple youtube video because they were general and vague (again the size of the information doesn't matter, how specific and accurate it is does).
I need key information
That's the only reason I'm here. I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but I'm not here to:
1. Get a "just work hard" speech (you might as well say "just waste years of time patting yourself on the back for effort"). Results are all that matter not feelings, feelings won't pay your bills lol.
2. Be "inspired"
3. Be given false hope
4. Be told to read up on more general information (this is pretty much the norm in the forex community lol - "just go to babypips")
5. Be given someones life story (yes yes yes, X successful person is great, I know it, you know it, they know it, that doesn't help me at all though its useless data)
6. Hear more platitudes
Etc
These things are time wasters and I'm not special, I'm not a genius, I don't think I can afford to spend time swimming through platitudes and "feel good" nonsense, when I know that the real information is out there (I just want the data and information, sorry if this sounds abrasive).
I'm looking for a specific starting point when I ask about something and I will be sure to say that to whoever I ask:
A specific course (that is detailed)
A specific guide (that is detailed)
Information that gets straight to the point
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Were all here "trying to make it" but I think most people get caught up in the "experience" of it all and the feeling of "brotherhood" you get when you are part of forums like this, and you get lost in it. When at the end of the day, that's not really objective, it doesn't really have anything to do with success, it just makes you feel like you are "on your way" to success being surrounded by so many people with the same goals, some of which have achieved it already. I think we need to take on an "AI mindset" (robotic mindset) when it comes to wealth building.
Be objective in our goals even if it seems harsh or brash. At the end of the day its the numbers that matter, its the data that matters (at least that's my perspective). If you don't have the right data you are just wasting your time, like a computer program stuck in an infinite loop.
I saw someone mention this forum on reddit as a good place to start learning how to build wealth. The following is my intro but it is also somewhat of a rant revolving around my general experience within "wealth building forums" and the general mindset I see, which is why I believe many (most) users are stuck there for years having made barely any significant progress (or none at all). I can't afford to fall into that rut.
I know a lot of people have this mindset that hard work leads to success, but that's idealist nonsense (I can just feel my inbox about to get flooded with hate mail lol).
If you are honest with yourself you know for a fact real life doesn't work like that, all of these success stories you see touted all the time are the exception to the rule. For every hard work story that led to success there's thousands of stories of people who failed that worked just as hard if not more, but you'll never hear about them, because the winners write the history books, or in this case the autobiographies (and they get the tv show appearances, and they get the amazon best seller ranks, and they get the notoriety, etc).
The difference between failure and success is having access to essential data, key information, knowing where to start or knowing a specific strategy to begin with.
As the known computer science saying goes Garbage In Garbage Out (GIGO).
Not all data and information is useful, you can read 100 books by 100 wealthy authors and still get no key information that leads to you becoming wealthy, especially if they are vague where it counts.
I've spoken to guys who are successful traders (friends of friends) through email, they have a specific trading strategy up their sleeve and key knowledge on the markets they trade on, that's why they are successful. For obvious reasons they say they can't just give me that information (they also say it wouldn't even take long), and I don't blame them, but it's still frustrating knowing that a 5 minute talk with someone could help you leave your job in a month. We are all one conversation away from changing our lives, a conversation that will never happen because nobody wants to help create their own competition or saturate their "niche" (like I said, I can't blame them).
The first few dollars I ever made online were the result of watching a short youtube video. I made barely anything but I liked that the information was specific and it works, more like it did work, doesn't work so well now. Whereas all of the few books and courses I've went through ironically didn't make me a single dollar yet, they failed in comparison to a simple youtube video because they were general and vague (again the size of the information doesn't matter, how specific and accurate it is does).
I need key information
That's the only reason I'm here. I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but I'm not here to:
1. Get a "just work hard" speech (you might as well say "just waste years of time patting yourself on the back for effort"). Results are all that matter not feelings, feelings won't pay your bills lol.
2. Be "inspired"
3. Be given false hope
4. Be told to read up on more general information (this is pretty much the norm in the forex community lol - "just go to babypips")
5. Be given someones life story (yes yes yes, X successful person is great, I know it, you know it, they know it, that doesn't help me at all though its useless data)
6. Hear more platitudes
Etc
These things are time wasters and I'm not special, I'm not a genius, I don't think I can afford to spend time swimming through platitudes and "feel good" nonsense, when I know that the real information is out there (I just want the data and information, sorry if this sounds abrasive).
I'm looking for a specific starting point when I ask about something and I will be sure to say that to whoever I ask:
A specific course (that is detailed)
A specific guide (that is detailed)
Information that gets straight to the point
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Were all here "trying to make it" but I think most people get caught up in the "experience" of it all and the feeling of "brotherhood" you get when you are part of forums like this, and you get lost in it. When at the end of the day, that's not really objective, it doesn't really have anything to do with success, it just makes you feel like you are "on your way" to success being surrounded by so many people with the same goals, some of which have achieved it already. I think we need to take on an "AI mindset" (robotic mindset) when it comes to wealth building.
Be objective in our goals even if it seems harsh or brash. At the end of the day its the numbers that matter, its the data that matters (at least that's my perspective). If you don't have the right data you are just wasting your time, like a computer program stuck in an infinite loop.
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