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Damian,

I deleted the article from EZA (one of many I'd written about various topics in an attempt to get a "platinum" account) and have attached the websites I've sent DMCA requests to (in order to get it taken down from them). I have also worked on getting rid of the article from Google's cache (image attached), as well as requesting the deletion of defamatory content on the forum (thanks @Fox)...

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In terms of whether you paid for news submission, it's none of my business.

The thing that annoyed me was the way through which you were portraying yourself. This is what I highlighted in the article (which I hoped you'd read and take on board). I respect you a LOT (seriously), but couldn't stomach the way in which you were pretending to be such a hot-shot.

When I read your post above (addressed to me), I acted immediately.

I wasn't going to post anything until I saw the most recent stuff you've put up (in response to @Longinus). If you're as sincere as you're making out, please consider what I'm going to write. I'm senior to you in age but nothing more (and prostrate myself in view of your superior experience).

I love what you put out and want you to enjoy every facet of success -- not just for your sake, but the millions who'll come after you and will only have a small book through which to gauge your legacy. You have all the hallmarks of a great man... and yet seem to be willing to squander it for a sliver of celebrity.

In regards the defamatory/hateful content, if you want recompense, I am partial to sharing an exclusive look at the 19k-word "branding" post I've been writing. About 25% of it is contextual (explains where I came up with it), but the rest is pure content. I've not shown anyone (I need to finish a few elements), but it MAY give you some ideas moving forward...

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Here's a video of me at your age (21 I think I was.... and clueless):


I'm not some chump online who got jealous. I love you - but have been abhorred by the flagrancy through which you've promoted yourself. I understand you're trying to make a name... but there's a difference between being self-assured and self-obsessed.

Since Christmas, my grandmother had a fall (has been in a nursing home -- she's 92), my mother's BFF (friends since 5) died suddenly in the shower and her other BFF (friends since 7) got a terrible diagnosis of pancreatic cancer. My mother had a second bout of cancer in 2015 and I lost my own friend to Leukemia at 10. Life is precarious. You've been successful, but there's much more to it than flashing cash and making out that you've got the biggest dick in the street.

Why not make good with what you've got?

You've been gifted sharp intellect, "xray" vision (in terms of cutting through BS) and getting stuff done. Imagine how much of a better place you could make the world if you leveraged that in a more coherent, effective, way (hence why I wrote those massive posts in this thread).

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Maybe that's too vague, yet I'm not sure if I should reveal brand names. I've seen some nasty shit happening to people who went too public with their brands.

You don't need to reveal anything unless you're actively claiming something from it.

Nate started acting like a shit. You're obviously partial to the story so no need to get involved. All I'll say is that sort of thing doesn't happen to undeserving people.

If you want to know how I found the company you operated (although it was kind-of a dick move to out it but whatever), it was on a screenshot you'd left on your Conquerring Fiverr page:

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The reason I write this is because of your mentioning of your eCom brands.

Do not publish them.

Being cordial does not mean being soft. You don't need to prove anything if you don't claim to be such a big shot. No one cares if you drive Ferrari's or anything - they just want to live their own lives without being tormented by some guy on Twitter. This is primarily why you've received such a backlash. You made money... GREAT! But now what?

It seems to me that you are where I was when I started looking at the branding stuff; namely that I'd enjoyed some success ($175k in one year... so - though not as financially successful as you - can certainly see where you're coming from). I realized at that point that if I wanted to make more, I'd have do a legit business, hence why I focused on software.

You're in a different ballgame. But the sentiment persists. You have a giant inside, but I don't think you're sure of the direction through which to channel it. My branding post would actually provide decent context to that, although it's obviously your choice as to what you end up doing.

I just know I have a message to share. I can make an impact.

There are TONS of avenues available to you - avenues which will be much more fruitful & rewarding than sitting around posting stuff on Instagram. As stated by @Xeon, the content you've posted on Insta is emblematic of the way you seem to have presented yourself thus far... superficially.

This is not a sleight, rather an observation. If you consider that Dan Lok has 1m+ subscribers on YouTube... and yet, I don't even know wtf he even "does"... surely someone of your standing, with demonstrable results, has the ability to curate a personal legacy far beyond that of even someone like Richard Branson.

If you want me to send the ~ yet to be completed ~ branding post (it's all there just needs polish), I'll gladly do so. If I apologize about the article, it would be insincere.

I never insinuated that you were a scammer (just dishonest in your presentation). I wrote what I truly felt (and still feel) - despite having to recant on the millionaire thing (I do believe you are a millionaire now), but I believe the depth/quality of content is still valid.

If you're willing to forgive my indiscretion, I would hope that you can see it was done with good intent.

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About 25% of it is contextual (explains where I came up with it), but the rest is pure content. I've not shown anyone (I need to finish a few elements), but it MAY give you some ideas moving forward...

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Finally, it's (almost) here! The copywriting style and layout reminds me of those sales pitch pages (e.g: Certified Customer Value Optimization Specialist) though.

But it's ok, just shut up and take my money already!

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Damian,

I deleted the article from EZA (one of many I'd written about various topics in an attempt to get a "platinum" account) and have attached the websites I've sent DMCA requests to (in order to get it taken down from them). I have also worked on getting rid of the article from Google's cache (image attached), as well as requesting the deletion of defamatory content on the forum (thanks @Fox)...

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In terms of whether you paid for news submission, it's none of my business.

The thing that annoyed me was the way through which you were portraying yourself. This is what I highlighted in the article (which I hoped you'd read and take on board). I respect you a LOT (seriously), but couldn't stomach the way in which you were pretending to be such a hot-shot.

When I read your post above (addressed to me), I acted immediately.

I wasn't going to post anything until I saw the most recent stuff you've put up (in response to @Longinus). If you're as sincere as you're making out, please consider what I'm going to write. I'm senior to you in age but nothing more (and prostrate myself in view of your superior experience).

I love what you put out and want you to enjoy every facet of success -- not just for your sake, but the millions who'll come after you and will only have a small book through which to gauge your legacy. You have all the hallmarks of a great man... and yet seem to be willing to squander it for a sliver of celebrity.

In regards the defamatory/hateful content, if you want recompense, I am partial to sharing an exclusive look at the 19k-word "branding" post I've been writing. About 25% of it is contextual (explains where I came up with it), but the rest is pure content. I've not shown anyone (I need to finish a few elements), but it MAY give you some ideas moving forward...

OaiuSY1.png

9z4Ocu6.png

diVQLTx.png


Here's a video of me at your age (21 I think I was.... and clueless):


I'm not some chump online who got jealous. I love you - but have been abhorred by the flagrancy through which you've promoted yourself. I understand you're trying to make a name... but there's a difference between being self-assured and self-obsessed.

Since Christmas, my grandmother had a fall (has been in a nursing home -- she's 92), my mother's BFF (friends since 5) died suddenly in the shower and her other BFF (friends since 7) got a terrible diagnosis of pancreatic cancer. My mother had a second bout of cancer in 2015 and I lost my own friend to Leukemia at 10. Life is precarious. You've been successful, but there's much more to it than flashing cash and making out that you've got the biggest dick in the street.

Why not make good with what you've got?

You've been gifted sharp intellect, "xray" vision (in terms of cutting through BS) and getting stuff done. Imagine how much of a better place you could make the world if you leveraged that in a more coherent, effective, way (hence why I wrote those massive posts in this thread).

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You don't need to reveal anything unless you're actively claiming something from it.

Nate started acting like a shit. You're obviously partial to the story so no need to get involved. All I'll say is that sort of thing doesn't happen to undeserving people.

If you want to know how I found the company you operated (although it was kind-of a dick move to out it but whatever), it was on a screenshot you'd left on your Conquerring Fiverr page:

n4hpSJe.png

Conquering Fiverr Salespage

The reason I write this is because of your mentioning of your eCom brands.

Do not publish them.

Being cordial does not mean being soft. You don't need to prove anything if you don't claim to be such a big shot. No one cares if you drive Ferrari's or anything - they just want to live their own lives without being tormented by some guy on Twitter. This is primarily why you've received such a backlash. You made money... GREAT! But now what?

It seems to me that you are where I was when I started looking at the branding stuff; namely that I'd enjoyed some success ($175k in one year... so - though not as financially successful as you - can certainly see where you're coming from). I realized at that point that if I wanted to make more, I'd have do a legit business, hence why I focused on software.

You're in a different ballgame. But the sentiment persists. You have a giant inside, but I don't think you're sure of the direction through which to channel it. My branding post would actually provide decent context to that, although it's obviously your choice as to what you end up doing.



There are TONS of avenues available to you - avenues which will be much more fruitful & rewarding than sitting around posting stuff on Instagram. As stated by @Xeon, the content you've posted on Insta is emblematic of the way you seem to have presented yourself thus far... superficially.

This is not a sleight, rather an observation. If you consider that Dan Lok has 1m+ subscribers on YouTube... and yet, I don't even know wtf he even "does"... surely someone of your standing, with demonstrable results, has the ability to curate a personal legacy far beyond that of even someone like Richard Branson.

If you want me to send the ~ yet to be completed ~ branding post (it's all there just needs polish), I'll gladly do so. If I apologize about the article, it would be insincere.

I never insinuated that you were a scammer (just dishonest in your presentation). I wrote what I truly felt (and still feel) - despite having to recant on the millionaire thing (I do believe you are a millionaire now), but I believe the depth/quality of content is still valid.

If you're willing to forgive my indiscretion, I would hope that you can see it was done with good intent.

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I appreciate it Richard, and thanks for the advice.

Looking forward to read this massive article you're writing on Branding. I feel there's a lot to learn from it.
 

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I was low key and genuine for 2+ years while I had been putting tremendous effort into writing articles for my site dareandconquer.com.

Also for 2+ years tweeting like a maniac trying to share my insights with people every day.

Then I see all those people who surpass me in a night, not because they shared more value, but because they showed more bling.

What would you do if you were me?

1) Keep the futile posting for the very few who are determined to study and implement?

2) Or use bling to attract more people? So that hopefully more want to read the product of hundreds of hours of work I did, without asking for anything in return.

I see where you're getting at Damian. But you've actually evolved the channel and you are now doing the videos that I was hoping you would make. So discard what I said...
 
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Oh my lorrddd the first 2 pages of this thread were so hard for me to read and I'm desperate for info on this topic. Jumped to the last page and seems like a crazy good turnaround. Looking forward to going over this thread in more detail.
 

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The journey to 1,000,000 followers is frozen.

Hey Damian,

I was reading some of your journey. I can help you automate most of the tedious work (like post scheduling, auto follow / unfollow, etc...)

Lets connect. I checked out your profile and with the content you produce I know the dashboard can help you help yourself.

Like I said, with your content strategy I foresee some good numbers.

Sucks you wasted money on those "gurus"... especially over $10k, but that's business right.

I don't understand how people can charge without results and expect to be legit... lol
 

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UPDATE!

LESSON 1:
AN EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE INSTAGRAM TACTIC BASED BASED ON PROVEN PRINCIPLES OF HUMAN PSYCHOLOGY

For Virtually Unlimited Growth - Even If You Start Without Any Promotional Budget

Using this simple tactic, you can grow your Instagram by 1000s, 10,000s or even 100,000s of followers, within a few hours.

Now, disclaimer, although it has tremendous growth potential, the exact growth depends on who helps you execute it. I will explain this in a second.

This is actually how I got most of my 40,000+ followers on my personal account, before I paused this social media experiment (for reasons explained in previous posts)

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This is something extremely simple actually, but you probably haven't thought of doing it. Big influencers often use this strategy to grow extremely fast.

Think about it like having a fire that's burning lightly, and then throwing some gasoline on it. IT BLOWS UP!

So let's see how you can blow your account up shall we?

STEP 1: The first thing you want to do, is put your account on private.

Why do you do this?

When you put an account on private, it fosters a sense of community and exclusivity. Not everyone can see the content of the account, but only those who are ACCEPTED as a part of the community.

Anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of human psychology, sales and persuasion can understand how powerful this is. When combined with targeted traffic and social proof, it's game over. You've won the IG game.

So, when that targeted traffic drops on your profile, they can only see 3 things. Your bio+link, profile picture and follower/following count ratio.

If your presentation is intriguing, they will have no option but request a permission to follow you. That's the ONLY way to see the content they are interested in. They cannot scroll down your feed and use that as a deciding factor for whether to follow you or not.

Now, a word of caution. You absolutely do NOT want to have your account on private all the time. This is key. You only selectively use this strategy when you're sending targeted traffic towards the profile.

STEP 2: Send Targeted Traffic


How do you send traffic? It depends. It could be by running a video Ad on IG. It could be by getting shout outs on big pages. It could be by cross-promoting IG on your other social media platforms. It could be [insert whatever targeted traffic generating strategy].

Let's assume that you are shouted out on another big page, for the shake of simplifying this. These shoutouts don't really cost much. You could get one for as low as $50, although they could go up to $500.

This is what I meant in the beginning, that the growth from this depends on who helps you execute it. There's a way to do it without paying, which obviously requires more effort and time on your part. But fundamentally, it works exactly the same. I will explain this towards the end.

Assuming that you have a budget for shoutouts - the most commonly used growth tactic - here is how you do it.

The content of the shoutout is of critical importance. Craft it the wrong way and your attempt will likely flop.

It must be created in a way that's engaging, that makes people want to see it. When you have the right message in front of a big page, you can see crazy growth in the thousands or tens of thousands of followers (depending on the size of the audience you're exposed to). What is more, the message has to be catered to this particular audience. You can't shout out a girls make up tutorial on a page about supercars.

The next step is leveraging the IG story feature of the page you got shouted out on. What you do with it is ask the audience if they want a big influencer to follow them.

If they vote YES, then you instruct them to go to the latest post in order to like and comment. Or to comment any word, letter by letter. This is done in order to boost engagement in that post, because generally promotional posts get less organic engagement. That's a problem, if you want to get additional free organic exposure from the Explore Page. When the followers of the big page engage with the post by commenting, IG's algorithm does its part at pushing the post to be seen by more people.

The reason why you use the polling feature to get a yes/no response stems from the science of persuasion.

When people express commitment for something, they are more likely to take action when you ask them to do something. This is known as the commitment/consistency bias.

If you just instructed them to go and like/comment to get followed by an influencer, a bigger percentage would ignore you, than if you made them say yes first to wanting to be followed. Then they go to the last post and engage. Alternatively you could tell them to swipe up to the Instagram TV video, if your shoutout wasn't a post on the feed.

This process is a clever trick to hack the algorithm and receive more traffic on the promotional post. It performs significantly better compared to a mere shout out.

IF YOU HAVE NO MONEY: This also works when you do Shoutouts for Shoutouts in order to grow (which cost nothing)

So you don't necessarily have to spend a dime to use this. Even if you have as little as 3000 followers, you could connect with other people with a similar following and use this strategy to transfer followers to each other. Use IG stories to promote your profiles whilst having them on private.

I'd personally recommend that you use this strategy combined with Instagram TV posts, because it's even more effective than regular posts on your feed. It's not been long since IG launched this feature. They have a big incentive to make it successful and "steal" users from YT so they are favoring those who are using it with more exposure.

On the flipside, there are a couple of disadvantages of using this strategy to grow. Private profiles do not have analytics and cannot run Ads while your profile is on private. So you lose access to data and have to pause or defer running Ads. This is not really a big problem for small accounts (<100,000 followers) because you will most likely not be running Ads anyway. There is a workaround though, by using your Facebook Page to run Ads on IG but that's a whole different story.

Overall, it's a highly effective strategy. The disadvantages are totally worth tolerating as you could expect crazy growth with this. You could even gain anywhere from 20,000 to 100,000 followers a day when you do this. This assumes of course that your traffic source is solid.

One last word of caution is, do NOT put your account back on public after doing this, without accepting all follower requests.

If you do so, the followers you didn't accept will be LOST as if they never followed you. Of course, it'd be extremely mundane to manually approve thousands of follower requests. Thankfully, technology saves your a$$ from this time consuming labor. You can use softwares such as Socialtools.io to do the hard lifting for you.

Anyway, this is it for today. Let me know what you think.

Are you going to implement this strategy? I would be thrilled to see your results!

PS:
Next time I post I might explain some Hashtag secrets for insane organic growth. You can use these to grow from ZERO, without spending a dime on shoutouts or Ads. These are extremely beginner friendly.

They've been tested on not 1 but 2 totally new accounts. One of them gained 19.800 followers and the other one 56.600 - JUST FROM HASHTAGS! - which is crazy because all the advice for hashtags you will find online is total nonsese.

If you've ever tried to use hashtags you were probably like "nah it doesn't work". Well, the hashtag code is now cracked. The exposure these hashtags hacks can generate is OFF THE CHARTS.

Check out the attached screenshots I took from their analytics. It's unbelievable and I can't wait to show you this (and more!).
 
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Meh. I've grown an account to a touch under 80K through the amazingly secret hack of:
1 - produce unique and interesting content
2 - post it
3 - genuinely interact with others
4 - rinse and repeat.

You can "hack" and automate stuff but you get out exactly what you put in, you put in fake and automated comments, you're going to get fake and automated comments back. You follow / unfollow, you'll get people who only follow you because you follow them. All of this is pointless, you are not growing or developing a real and engaged community.
 

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Meh. I've grown an account to a touch under 80K through the amazingly secret hack of:
1 - produce unique and interesting content
2 - post it
3 - genuinely interact with others
4 - rinse and repeat.

You can "hack" and automate stuff but you get out exactly what you put in, you put in fake and automated comments, you're going to get fake and automated comments back. You follow / unfollow, you'll get people who only follow you because you follow them. All of this is pointless, you are not growing or developing a real and engaged community.

Absolutely!

One of the very first things I emphasized in this thread was the ineffectiveness of follow/unfollow.

No automation can replace genuine interaction.

What's the account Paul?

I'm sure we could learn a lot from studying it.
 

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Absolutely!

One of the very first things I emphasized in this thread was the ineffectiveness of follow/unfollow.

No automation can replace genuine interaction.

What's the account Paul?

I'm sure we could learn a lot from studying it.

@paulmp (Paul Pichugin (@paulmp) • Instagram photos and videos) same as all platforms. I doubt you'll learn anything useful from looking at it, I'm at the point of potentially walking away from Instagram completely.

At its peak I was getting 10K+ likes per photo, engagement is all over the place now, some images get over 4K, others barely crack 300, the algorithm is really weird.

I was also part of your facebook group, but was getting pretty close to zero value out of it and got sick of certain types of posts that were just overly negative, I don't need that kind of negativity right now.

All the best with it all Damian.
 
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@paulmp (Paul Pichugin (@paulmp) • Instagram photos and videos) same as all platforms. I doubt you'll learn anything useful from looking at it, I'm at the point of potentially walking away from Instagram completely.

At its peak I was getting 10K+ likes per photo, engagement is all over the place now, some images get over 4K, others barely crack 300, the algorithm is really weird.

I was also part of your facebook group, but was getting pretty close to zero value out of it and got sick of certain types of posts that were just overly negative, I don't need that kind of negativity right now.

All the best with it all Damian.

It's a beautiful profile.

if there's anything this can teach you is that an IG account doesn't grow out of thin air.

The foundation of growth is "eye candy". You will unlikely go far on IG without visually pleasing imagery.

There are exceptions to this rule, in certain niches where you can get away with subpar visuals.

But in most cases, your account will not grow unless you 1) post awesome visuals and 2) do so on a consistent basis.

Every growth strategy I've shared so far assumes that you already know and apply this. However, this serves as a good reminder for everyone to realize that nothing will work without the proper foundation.

Both my personal profile as well as the brands I operate @addicted2view and @dancetvision have very good - at least above average - content foundation.
 

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The foundation of growth is "eye candy". You will unlikely go far on IG without visually pleasing imagery.

Nah, the foundation of IG growth is the virality / potential of the post to be good enough to be shared, that's how the Reach comes about. I checked out his IG page and he has some sleek and visually pleasing imagery, so not sure what you mean by that.

I like your @dancetvision page though.

Previously, I had a bit of homerun on IG by using bots to boost the reach of the post, and then letting it catch on organically. It works (e.g: real followers, real comments and likes), but recently, IG has been clamping down hard on these tools, so just gotta wait for the storm to pass.
 

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What in the actual F*ck. Subscribers aren't the most notable revenue driving metric, no matter the platform. When are people going to start seeing the forest through the trees???
 
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This thread smells of a greasy sales funnel happening before our eyes, using all the hallmarks of @SinisterLex 's legendary Guru thread found here...

GOLD! - Guru Cults Exposed: The Tactics "Experts" Use To Pull You In & Suck You Dry

So far what I've gathered in several posts is this: Get a blue tick. Ok, isn't that obvious? Kinda like saying, "If you want to impress the easily impressionable, get a Lambo."

I hope something actionable comes soon because right now it feel like this content is simply to pimp a signature and bite forum users to a FB group. We're educated to the techniques, might work on other forums, but not here.

Try being genuine, we are your peers, not your target rich environment ripe ready to be sold.

That said, I would LOVE to be wrong and some GOLD follows. I'm all for having my foot shoved in my mouth!

LOL at the tags. I remember hearing about this guy when Victor Pride gave him a shout (Vic doesn't link to him anymore in the original article). 30 Days of X > Damien Pros. It's especially hilarious when Damien says things like don't be cynical. Some of us, like me, have been around the block and have seen internet marketers make far fetched claims. There are others here that can smell marketer talk a mile away either due to having street smarts or are born with 150+ IQ. Not trying to hate but like MJ said we're your peers, that funnels strategy isn't going to work.

With that being said just backwards engineer what Damien said/does and know that the law of attraction always apply. If you make your money through illegal means (I'm not accusing Damien of this) just don't be shocked when the feds are waiting at your door.
 

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LOL at the tags. I remember hearing about this guy when Victor Pride gave him a shout (Vic doesn't link to him anymore in the original article). 30 Days of X > Damien Pros. It's especially hilarious when Damien says things like don't be cynical. Some of us, like me, have been around the block and have seen internet marketers make far fetched claims. There are others here that can smell marketer talk a mile away either due to having street smarts or are born with 150+ IQ. Not trying to hate but like MJ said we're your peers, that funnels strategy isn't going to work.

With that being said just backwards engineer what Damien said/does and know that the law of attraction always apply. If you make your money through illegal means (I'm not accusing Damien of this) just don't be shocked when the feds are waiting at your door.

Clearly didn't read the whole thread.

Victor most definitely links back to my site (see?). He knows I'm legit.
 
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Nah, the foundation of IG growth is the virality / potential of the post to be good enough to be shared, that's how the Reach comes about. I checked out his IG page and he has some sleek and visually pleasing imagery, so not sure what you mean by that.

I like your @dancetvision page though.

Previously, I had a bit of homerun on IG by using bots to boost the reach of the post, and then letting it catch on organically. It works (e.g: real followers, real comments and likes), but recently, IG has been clamping down hard on these tools, so just gotta wait for the storm to pass.

You're right the post's potential to become viral is very important.

But far more pages have grown by creating/curating visually pleasing imagery, than viral posts.

The common factor between almost all big pages is visually pleasing imagery that's posted consistently. Unless you're Dan Bilzerian and can post videos of you holding an alligator with 15 semi naked bikini models in the background.
 
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LESSON 2:
HOW TO GET THE PRESTIGIOUS BLUE CHECK MARK

The Formula For Making Your Instagram Verified

Like I explained in previous posts, a verification mark can help your account grow faster.

Verified accounts seem to be favored by the algorithm because they represent “notable” people who usually have “high status”.

What does that mean?

I will explain in a second. A common example of how the algorithm favors verified accounts is that it ranks the comments of verified accounts first in any comment section. This is just one way verified accounts receive more visibility.

Case in point: a comment of the famous YouTuber Rob Lipsett under one of my posts. It shows up 2nd, even though he wasn't the 2nd person to comment chronologically. This happens in every other post of mine where Rob ever commented.

24999

Also, from the same post, is comment even shows up as the only comment under the post, before you click the link to expand the comment section. Not a coincidence.

24998

Now, before detailing the exact steps you can follow towards verification, let’s clarify how you shouldn’t go about it.

Under no circumstances, do not get lured by profiteers who claim they can guarantee you a blue checkmark, as final approval is entirely dependent on you fulfilling specific qualifications Instagram has set for granting verified status.

You might have seen accounts on IG that have weird usernames and a verified checkmark, spamming the comment sections of big pages and trying to sell their “verification services”. This is highly questionable and involves a high risk of getting scammed or even banned from IG. Ignore those people. Honestly, I don’t understand how these bot pages have gotten verified in the first place. It’s really weird if you see it. But I wouldn’t trust them for a second to make my account verified.

There are also many fake profiles which promise to make your account verified if you repost an image and tag them, or if you directly pay them. Sure, if you want to jeopardize your account, get banned or lose your money.

25007


Also, ignore any kind of message from Instagram itself, telling you they want to verify you. This is a scam. It is not really Instagram messaging you, but rather an account or email address that has mimicked Instagram’s username/e-mail address.

Instagram will never really chase you for verification. Don’t get fooled by something that looks like Instagram, telling you that you're the "chosen one".

Nope! Scam!

One of the influencers in my Rolodex lost her "little" 100k follower account by falling prey to this. She got overly excited that she was chosen. When she clicked on the link she was sent by "Instagram" to confirm her verification, she was sent to a phishing site that gathered her login credentials. Lost the account forever and had to start over...

Verification is something that you request from Instagram. It will be granted if you fit particular criteria or denied if you don’t.

The main requirement for verification is presence & press outside of Instagram.
You have to be a person of “public interest”

Or as Instagram officially puts "a notable public figure"
25000

So, no matter what ANYONE tells you, there is NO hack in this world to circumvent this fact.

Stop looking for it, right now, and concentrate on what will really make you verified.

Which like in everything worth having in life, requires serious freaking work.

Surprised? :oops:

What qualifies you as a "notable public figure?" Mostly a combination of the following
  1. Interviews/features in popular media (magazines, radio, TV)
  2. Impersonators & fan accounts: either users pretending to be you or profiles made from fans
  3. Wikipedia page
  4. hundreds of thousands or millions of followers spread across various platforms
You don’t have to have all four of these, but I’ve listed them in order of significance.

25001

For example my friend @cobratate recently got verified on Instagram merely by having 3) and a little bit of 1)

He’s a 4x kickboxing world champion, hence why the wikipedia page and the write-ups about him. He doesn’t have massive press coverage, but what he had was enough. He had also participated in UK’s Big Brother TV Show, and probably got bonus points for that (person of public interest).


25002



Here you can see Andrew spilling to me the secrets of his Instagram verification process, whilst partying hard in Ayia Napa, Cyrpus.

I can already here you screaming "But I am not a 4x kickboxing world champion Damian. This won't work for me!"

Although I would like to pacify your concern, I have to admit that you're actually right.


Instagram's verification program is not for every day people, but let me tell you something, if you've not already lost interest in this.

You shouldn't aspire to be an everyday person anyway. Everyday people are slowlane. You're fastlane, aren't you?

Fastlaners can actually get verified, via their businesses.

If you've built a successful business, you can use it to get media coverage and "hack" your way into getting the verified badge EVEN on your personal profile!

So, even if you're not personally well-known, you can leverage your business's success in order to get verified.

You have to elicit public interest in some way. You have to be a somebody. A fastlaner with a successful business is a somebody.

So the question shifts from "how do I get verified" to "how do I get media coverage for my business?"

In my case I have a very strong portfolio of interviews and features in international media such as Forbes, Entrepreneur Magazine, Huffington Post and more.

Why am I not verified yet?

Well, my verification application got denied back in September 2018.

25003

Why?

I was informed be a very credible connection that I’d have to ALSO have a Wikipedia page to optimize my odds. On top of that, I would also need a notable PR agency to submit the verification application on my behalf, instead of submitting it myself.

(Andrew had both a Wikipedia page and a PR agency to get him verified so this confirms the above)

Now that we’re talking about connections, it’s been alleged by many that you have to have an inside person in order to get verified. Usually the PR agencies that submit your account have that kind of connection with Instagram staff that manages verifications. There might be a quid pro quo there, but this has never been confirmed by anyone officially for obvious reasons.

In my opinion this is possibly true, but there is no way to know. So there’s no point in further discussing it. Even if I had inside connections, I wouldn’t be able to disclose it, and so would do anyone who might have them.

However I am mentioning this to stress an important aspect for achieving success on Instagram, and beyond.

Networking. When you know people who know people, you have leverage that can grant you things most people can’t have. Like this information I am presenting you.

I’d never have known without a) my personal experience from trying to get verified b) the experience of my network of verified individuals, influencers and Instagram experts.

All in all, verification is not a significant trigger in follower growth, if that’s what you’re aiming for. Like I said in the beginning, the algorithm favors verified profiles, but up to a certain extent.

What verification is useful for, is networking and connecting with powerful people.

It gives you status and that makes connecting with important individuals easier.

Your comments stand out in their comment sections, they get notified for your comments, your messages stand out in their inbox, and if I’m not mistaken you also slide straight into their DMs, instead of the “other requests” inbox.
 
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UPDATE!

LESSON 2:
HOW TO GET THE PRESTIGIOUS BLUE CHECK MARK

The Formula For Making Your Instagram Verified

Like I explained in previous posts, a verification mark can help your account grow faster.

Verified accounts seem to be favored by the algorithm because they represent “notable” people who usually have “high status”.

What does that mean?

I will explain in a second. A common example of how the algorithm favors verified accounts is that it ranks the comments of verified accounts first in any comment section. This is just one way verified accounts receive more visibility.

Case in point: a comment of the famous YouTuber Rob Lipsett under one of my posts. It shows up 2nd, even though he wasn't the 2nd person to comment chronologically. This happens in every other post of mine where Rob ever commented.

View attachment 24999

Also, from the same post, is comment even shows up as the only comment under the post, before you click the link to expand the comment section. Not a coincidence.

View attachment 24998

Now, before detailing the exact steps you can follow towards verification, let’s clarify how you shouldn’t go about it.

Under no circumstances, do not get lured by profiteers who claim they can guarantee you a blue checkmark, as final approval is entirely dependent on you fulfilling specific qualifications Instagram has set for granting verified status.

You might have seen accounts on IG that have weird usernames and a verified checkmark, spamming the comment sections of big pages and trying to sell their “verification services”. This is highly questionable and involves a high risk of getting scammed or even banned from IG. Ignore those people. Honestly, I don’t understand how these bot pages have gotten verified in the first place. It’s really weird if you see it. But I wouldn’t trust them for a second to make my account verified.

Also, ignore any kind of message from Instagram itself, telling you they want to verify you. This is a scam. It is not really Instagram messaging you, but rather an account or email address that has mimicked Instagram’s username/e-mail address.

Instagram will never really chase you for verification. Don’t get fooled by something that looks like Instagram, telling you that you're the "chosen one".

Nope! Scam!

One of the influencers in my Rolodex lost her "little" 100k follower account by falling prey to this. She got overly excited that she was chosen. When she clicked on the link she was sent by "Instagram" to confirm her verification, she was sent to a phishing site that gathered her login credentials. Lost the account forever and had to start over...

Verification is something that you request from Instagram. It will be granted if you fit particular criteria or denied if you don’t.

The main requirement for verification is presence & press outside of Instagram.
You have to be a person of “public interest”

Or as Instagram officially puts "a notable public figure"
View attachment 25000

So, no matter what ANYONE tells you, there is NO hack in this world to circumvent this fact.

Stop looking for it, right now, and concentrate on what will really make you verified.

Which like in everything worth having in life, requires serious freaking work.

Surprised? :oops:

What qualifies you as a "notable public figure?" Mostly a combination of the following
  1. Interviews/features in popular media (magazines, radio, TV)
  2. Impersonators & fan accounts: either users pretending to be you or profiles made from fans
  3. Wikipedia page
  4. hundreds of thousands or millions of followers spread across various platforms
You don’t have to have all four of these, but I’ve listed them in order of significance.

View attachment 25001

For example my friend @cobratate recently got verified on Instagram merely by having 3) and a little bit of 1)

He’s a 4x kickboxing world champion, hence why the wikipedia page and the write-ups about him. He doesn’t have massive press coverage, but what he had was enough. He had also participated in UK’s Big Brother TV Show, and probably got bonus points for that (person of public interest).


View attachment 25002



Here you can see Andrew spilling to me the secrets of his Instagram verification process, whilst partying hard in Ayia Napa, Cyrpus.

I can already here you screaming "But I am not a 4x kickboxing world champion Damian. This won't work for me!"

Although I would like to pacify your concern, I have to admit that you're actually right.


Instagram's verification program is not for every day people, but let me tell you something, if you've not already lost interest in this.

You shouldn't aspire to be an everyday person anyway. Everyday people are slowlane. You're fastlane, aren't you?

Fastlaners can actually get verified, via their businesses.

If you've built a successful business, you can use it to get media coverage and "hack" your way into getting the verified badge EVEN on your personal profile!

So, even if you're not personally well-known, you can leverage your business's success in order to get verified.

You have to elicit public interest in some way. You have to be a somebody. A fastlaner with a successful business is a somebody.

So the question shifts from "how do I get verified" to "how do I get media coverage for my business?"

In my case I have a very strong portfolio of interviews and features in international media such as Forbes, Entrepreneur Magazine, Huffington Post and more.

Why am I not verified yet?

Well, my verification application got denied back in September 2018.

View attachment 25003

Why?

I was informed be a very credible connection that I’d have to ALSO have a Wikipedia page to optimize my odds. On top of that, I would also need a notable PR agency to submit the verification application on my behalf, instead of submitting it myself.

(Andrew had both a Wikipedia page and a PR agency to get him verified so this confirms the above)

Now that we’re talking about connections, it’s been alleged by many that you have to have an inside person in order to get verified. Usually the PR agencies that submit your account have that kind of connection with Instagram staff that manages verifications. There might be a quid pro quo there, but this has never been confirmed by anyone officially for obvious reasons.

In my opinion this is possibly true, but there is no way to know. So there’s no point in further discussing it. Even if I had inside connections, I wouldn’t be able to disclose it, and so would do anyone who might have them.

However I am mentioning this to stress an important aspect for achieving success on Instagram, and beyond.

Networking. When you know people who know people, you have leverage that can grant you things most people can’t have. Like this information I am presenting you.

I’d never have known without a) my personal experience from trying to get verified b) the experience of my network of verified individuals, influencers and Instagram experts.

All in all, verification is not a significant trigger in follower growth, if that’s what you’re aiming for. Like I said in the beginning, the algorithm favors verified profiles, but up to a certain extent.

What verification is useful for, is networking and connecting with powerful people.

It gives you status and that makes connecting with important individuals easier.

Your comments stand out in their comment sections, they get notified for your comments, your messages stand out in their inbox, and if I’m not mistaken you also slide straight into their DMs, instead of the “other requests” inbox.

It would be good if you sell packages to those of us to hook us up with the big guys that you know.....
 

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UPDATE!

LESSON 2:
HOW TO GET THE PRESTIGIOUS BLUE CHECK MARK

The Formula For Making Your Instagram Verified

Like I explained in previous posts, a verification mark can help your account grow faster.

Verified accounts seem to be favored by the algorithm because they represent “notable” people who usually have “high status”.

What does that mean?

I will explain in a second. A common example of how the algorithm favors verified accounts is that it ranks the comments of verified accounts first in any comment section. This is just one way verified accounts receive more visibility.

Case in point: a comment of the famous YouTuber Rob Lipsett under one of my posts. It shows up 2nd, even though he wasn't the 2nd person to comment chronologically. This happens in every other post of mine where Rob ever commented.

View attachment 24999

Also, from the same post, is comment even shows up as the only comment under the post, before you click the link to expand the comment section. Not a coincidence.

View attachment 24998

Now, before detailing the exact steps you can follow towards verification, let’s clarify how you shouldn’t go about it.

Under no circumstances, do not get lured by profiteers who claim they can guarantee you a blue checkmark, as final approval is entirely dependent on you fulfilling specific qualifications Instagram has set for granting verified status.

You might have seen accounts on IG that have weird usernames and a verified checkmark, spamming the comment sections of big pages and trying to sell their “verification services”. This is highly questionable and involves a high risk of getting scammed or even banned from IG. Ignore those people. Honestly, I don’t understand how these bot pages have gotten verified in the first place. It’s really weird if you see it. But I wouldn’t trust them for a second to make my account verified.

There are also many fake profiles which promise to make your account verified if you repost an image and tag them, or if you directly pay them. Sure, if you want to jeopardize your account, get banned or lose your money.

View attachment 25007


Also, ignore any kind of message from Instagram itself, telling you they want to verify you. This is a scam. It is not really Instagram messaging you, but rather an account or email address that has mimicked Instagram’s username/e-mail address.

Instagram will never really chase you for verification. Don’t get fooled by something that looks like Instagram, telling you that you're the "chosen one".

Nope! Scam!

One of the influencers in my Rolodex lost her "little" 100k follower account by falling prey to this. She got overly excited that she was chosen. When she clicked on the link she was sent by "Instagram" to confirm her verification, she was sent to a phishing site that gathered her login credentials. Lost the account forever and had to start over...

Verification is something that you request from Instagram. It will be granted if you fit particular criteria or denied if you don’t.

The main requirement for verification is presence & press outside of Instagram.
You have to be a person of “public interest”

Or as Instagram officially puts "a notable public figure"
View attachment 25000

So, no matter what ANYONE tells you, there is NO hack in this world to circumvent this fact.

Stop looking for it, right now, and concentrate on what will really make you verified.

Which like in everything worth having in life, requires serious freaking work.

Surprised? :oops:

What qualifies you as a "notable public figure?" Mostly a combination of the following
  1. Interviews/features in popular media (magazines, radio, TV)
  2. Impersonators & fan accounts: either users pretending to be you or profiles made from fans
  3. Wikipedia page
  4. hundreds of thousands or millions of followers spread across various platforms
You don’t have to have all four of these, but I’ve listed them in order of significance.

View attachment 25001

For example my friend @cobratate recently got verified on Instagram merely by having 3) and a little bit of 1)

He’s a 4x kickboxing world champion, hence why the wikipedia page and the write-ups about him. He doesn’t have massive press coverage, but what he had was enough. He had also participated in UK’s Big Brother TV Show, and probably got bonus points for that (person of public interest).


View attachment 25002



Here you can see Andrew spilling to me the secrets of his Instagram verification process, whilst partying hard in Ayia Napa, Cyrpus.

I can already here you screaming "But I am not a 4x kickboxing world champion Damian. This won't work for me!"

Although I would like to pacify your concern, I have to admit that you're actually right.


Instagram's verification program is not for every day people, but let me tell you something, if you've not already lost interest in this.

You shouldn't aspire to be an everyday person anyway. Everyday people are slowlane. You're fastlane, aren't you?

Fastlaners can actually get verified, via their businesses.

If you've built a successful business, you can use it to get media coverage and "hack" your way into getting the verified badge EVEN on your personal profile!

So, even if you're not personally well-known, you can leverage your business's success in order to get verified.

You have to elicit public interest in some way. You have to be a somebody. A fastlaner with a successful business is a somebody.

So the question shifts from "how do I get verified" to "how do I get media coverage for my business?"

In my case I have a very strong portfolio of interviews and features in international media such as Forbes, Entrepreneur Magazine, Huffington Post and more.

Why am I not verified yet?

Well, my verification application got denied back in September 2018.

View attachment 25003

Why?

I was informed be a very credible connection that I’d have to ALSO have a Wikipedia page to optimize my odds. On top of that, I would also need a notable PR agency to submit the verification application on my behalf, instead of submitting it myself.

(Andrew had both a Wikipedia page and a PR agency to get him verified so this confirms the above)

Now that we’re talking about connections, it’s been alleged by many that you have to have an inside person in order to get verified. Usually the PR agencies that submit your account have that kind of connection with Instagram staff that manages verifications. There might be a quid pro quo there, but this has never been confirmed by anyone officially for obvious reasons.

In my opinion this is possibly true, but there is no way to know. So there’s no point in further discussing it. Even if I had inside connections, I wouldn’t be able to disclose it, and so would do anyone who might have them.

However I am mentioning this to stress an important aspect for achieving success on Instagram, and beyond.

Networking. When you know people who know people, you have leverage that can grant you things most people can’t have. Like this information I am presenting you.

I’d never have known without a) my personal experience from trying to get verified b) the experience of my network of verified individuals, influencers and Instagram experts.

All in all, verification is not a significant trigger in follower growth, if that’s what you’re aiming for. Like I said in the beginning, the algorithm favors verified profiles, but up to a certain extent.

What verification is useful for, is networking and connecting with powerful people.

It gives you status and that makes connecting with important individuals easier.

Your comments stand out in their comment sections, they get notified for your comments, your messages stand out in their inbox, and if I’m not mistaken you also slide straight into their DMs, instead of the “other requests” inbox.
Thanks for such valuable insights and it was really interesting to read your story. Seems like it's a long way to go to get verified on IG for me.
 
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LESSON 3:
HOW TO MAKE YOUR INSTAGRAM LUCRATIVE FROM THE GET GO

Tips On How To Make Your Social Media Investment Worthwhile​

Most are under the impression that you need to have hundreds of thousands or millions of followers on your Instagram to start making money out of it.

In fact, the opposite is true. You could make a lot more with a small account, than a big time influencer with followers in the millions.

An average rule of thumb is that you should earn a minimum of $0,1 per follower or an ideal maximum of $1 per follower

So even if you only have 5000 followers (which you can get in a couple months or less), you should be cashing in $500-$5000 every month.

Here are some ways to go about it:

#1 Social Media Presence is a Monetizable Marketing Vehicle

The more engaged followers you have on your account, the more valuable your presence becomes to brand who want to advertise on Instagram.

Companies like Daniel Wellington spend their whole Advertising budget on social media influencers.

What is hot right now on Instagram are the "micro-influencers", meaning accounts in the 1000-10,000 follower range

That's because the majority of bigger influencers have been oversaturated, overadvertised and burnt their audiences.

Brands are now looking for smaller accounts with really engaged, legitimate followings.

The way you attract brand attention is by the way your profile looks.

The degree that your visuals captivate the eye determines the caliber of brands that want to work with you

(Yes, countless hours of editing and photography practice are required to do this - or you must have the budget to hire someone with those skills like I do)

Your Instagram profile is YOUR brand's portfolio and you close deals by presenting it, much like models close deals by presenting their portfolio.

Think: would brands in your niche be willing to pay you to promote them based on your presentation ALONE?

This is the most crucial aspect of it. If a brand rep stumbled upon your profile, would it instantly make them want to contact you?

If you make your profile so as your answer to this is yes, then everything becomes easy when you start reaching out to brands yourself.

If you want to start making money as a brand ambassador with your IG, you should pitch them daily via IG DMs. Strive to reach out to at least 10 brands a day. That's 300 out reach attempts at the end of the month. You should expect to convert at 5-10% with a good profile. That gives you more than enough brands to work with.

As you get more experience working with brands, and build relationships with them, you can leverage that reputation to target even bigger names.

Apart from you reaching out via IG DMs, you may also use platforms that connect Instagram Influencers with Brands that are looking for IG advertising. One such platform is AspireIQ (no affiliation).

However, I do not recommend using them in the beginning. You'd get much more value learning to "Cold-DM" and write copy. I suggest that you contact brands directly when you start doing this.

#2 Instagram "Native" Advertising Placements

Much like a newspaper would have different placements on different pages, so does an Instagram profile. Where exactly on your profile you promote a brand, determines what you get paid.

For example, you have:

- feed posts
- story swipe up links (after 10k followers)
- bio link
- Story highlights

In these placements you can add brand sponsored posts and stories, affiliate links and custom coupon codes the brands provide you with.

#3 Instagram Story Takeovers

If you're working with a brand, don't forget that the above placements exist on their profile too, not just on yours.

Instagram Story Takeovers is the practice of creating custom content for a particular brand, that THEY upload on their profile. The brand gains social proof by displaying your content. You also make their life easy by alleviating the burden of content creation for them. You also put a face on a faceless entity, which most brands are.

Other (not so obvious) Perks of Growing & Monetizing Your IG

One night during Grant Cardone's 10X Growth Con, I was walking in the hotel lobby and saw a guy in the elevator holding a sign that said "VIP Influencer Party".

I inquired what it was about. He said there was a networking event happening in one of the hotel's Suites. I showed him my IG and got myself, my buddy and videographer in.

In there I met some extremely successful and powerful people, like the former CEO of Daymond John's FUBU apparel brand.

Growing your Instagram comes with a ton of side benefits. The opportunity to add powerful people to your network is just one of them.

Someone in the travel niche might enjoy free travel and sponsored hotel stays. A fitness influencers may enjoy free supplements and workout apparel. Benefits come in all shapes and sizes and every kind of niche has different perks.

This comes on top of the money you make and the social influence you wield.

Pour Conclure

There are many other ways to monetize your social media following, from affiliate marketing to selling your own products or even creating your own brand.

I find working with brands the simplest and most efficient way for a beginner.

This is because of the skill development that will occur.

- Photography
- Photo Editing
- Copywriting/Outreach
- Networking/Negotiating

These are highly valuable, and transferable skills that you train whilst building your profile on Instagram.

The way to see Instagram is as a training bootcamp that gets you paid handsomely in the end of it.

Now, someone could be dismissive and say "Nothing new, just work with brands and get paid". Well, that person wouldn't be a very successful one, I guarantee.

It's the little things in this short post, like shifting your frame of mind from "I need millions of followers" to "I can monetize any amount of followers" or "using IG as a training bootcamp for high value skills" instead of "a vanity metric for self affirmation" that it is for most people.

If you have specific questions with regards to monetization or growing AND have a profile to give you personalized recommendations, post below.

This is a general, one size fits all and mostly beginner friendly set of guidelines.

Until Next Time,
Damian Prosalendis

PS: What other questions do you have about growing or monetizing your Instagram page?
 
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I'm so sick of con artists abusing optimism to make money. Let's just all be realistic pessimists and rule the world :p
 

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Boy this thread was a whirlwind.

Anyways I'm doing a bit of Instagram management for a client and I have no idea how to properly use #hashtags so I'd love some advice there.

We're mainly using social media for traffic right now. Driving traffic to somewhere we can capture their email and get them on our email list. Landing pages, the website, live webinar registrations (yes actual live ones with content, not evergreen marketing funnel ones), or even meetup.com where they can RSVP for our free local events. We get their email from meetup or at the door when they come to the event.

From my perspective as a marketer, the main goal is to get their email address. The email list is a true asset we can own and control, whereas social media channels are something you can't really control. You could get banned, censored, have your ads shut down, deplatformed, etc. Nobody can take your email list away though.

I'm open to using social media for more than just traffic, but that's where it fits for us right now.

Anyways, I'm clueless on how to use hashtags :)
 

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Its hardly a personal brand if all your comments are fake and your numbers drop everyday unless you get a shout out/buy more from another fake inflated account?

Im sure you got a few real friends in the mix but don't you think you are being quite misleading with your "following"?
His instagram account doesn't exist any more, his twitter account (from his signature) is dead and the facebook group he started has had zero activity in the last 30 days... complete sham.
 
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His instagram account doesn't exist any more, his twitter account (from his signature) is dead and the facebook group he started has had zero activity in the last 30 days... complete sham.
I changed my usernames to @damianprosa a couple years back. Just haven't updated them here. Noted
 

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I changed my usernames to @damianprosa a couple years back. Just haven't updated them here. Noted

Any other update? I notice you are now selling crypto courses and tips, I was expecting an ecom course since I think that’s how you made your money?
 

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I changed my usernames to @damianprosa a couple years back. Just haven't updated them here. Noted
Dude your reputation everywhere is a joke.

Your nothing but a fake guru, and that's me putting it politely.

I'll hold back on writing what I really think.
 
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I have 600,000 followers on IG (500k on one page) in the wealth space. I'm hoping to brand myself more as the Mark Manson of Instagram rather than the Grant Cardone of Instagram (seems to be your approach) but I can respect your hustle.

I wouldn't call IG no work though. I work a lot of hours grinding it out and your earning targets seem a bit far fetched. I made $13k last month from my page, in the highest value niche, and I make more than most of my peers. So $50-500k a month seems a bit absurd.
 

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I have 600,000 followers on IG (500k on one page) in the wealth space. I'm hoping to brand myself more as the Mark Manson of Instagram rather than the Grant Cardone of Instagram (seems to be your approach) but I can respect your hustle.

I wouldn't call IG no work though. I work a lot of hours grinding it out and your earning targets seem a bit far fetched. I made $13k last month from my page, in the highest value niche, and I make more than most of my peers. So $50-500k a month seems a bit absurd.

About time I saw another member from HF on here lol. Time to put some original usernames on some other accounts being grown for more organic traction
 

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