Looking to attract high net worth individuals/business people

[Ornlu The Wolf]

Hello Ornlu here..

My expertise is in web design.

Looking to build websites for financial service providers, investors, high net worth individuals etc.

Here's my understanding so far:

I build better websites for financial planners, financial service providers so they can attract better clients.

These clients have big money, some are investors, some are millionaires.

I may get referred to these high net worth people if they need for a website.

What is my end goal?

Short term goal is to sell web related services.
Long term is to build network, become an investor.

Do you think this can work?

Thanks

 

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[Napoolion]

I guess you have to hang out where they hang out. Not sure why anybody would start introducing you to these investors though just because you want to earn good money from websites you make for them and most definitely nobody really cares that you want to be investor as well.
If you find a person who has great network, provide a lot of value, then yes, your name will definitely run through network if someone will ask about websites.

 

[Ornlu The Wolf]

I guess you have to hang out where they hang out. Not sure why anybody would start introducing you to these investors though just because you want to earn good money from websites you make for them and most definitely nobody really cares that you want to be investor as well.
If you find a person who has great network, provide a lot of value, then yes, your name will definitely run through network if someone will ask about websites.

Can't hang out with them since I live in a different country. Most of these people are from USA and the UK so have to do this over the internet.

 

[Aix-Geneve]

I'm interested in doing web development myself, but as I see it, there is no correlation between HNW and design or development. As I have expertise in finance and know a significant amount about money, I would suggest you take your search for investment ideas in other directions. I myself, am learning as much about trading systems as possible. For instance, I know a reasonable amount about trading strategies, so I am interested in looking at you tube channels (specific channels that interest me: Interactive Brokers, Ambibroker, CBOE, OIC). I'm not endorsing or suggesting these or anything on these. They're risky. You must reduce risk.

You can also search the alternative websites, usually some have good trading info attached. Recently, I came across an interested tidbit - HNW are shifting their portoflios out of public stocks and into private equity and real estate (www.tiger21.com). The website quoted discusses this, as well as the composition and break down.

How did I find out this, I you tubed the FIN TECH videos and listened to the conferences. Fin Tech (financial technology) is all the rage in Augmented Intelligence and from what I can gather, will be a paradigm shift in investing.

 

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[jon.a]

HNW investors don't care about you. Read the book again.

 

[G-Man]

HNW investors don't care about you. Read the book again.

This^^^ Hard truth. If you focus on building a business and become successful, you'll find it gives you access to these people organically, and for the right reasons.

 

[Ornlu The Wolf]

I'm interested in doing web development myself, but as I see it, there is no correlation between HNW and design or development. As I have expertise in finance and know a significant amount about money, I would suggest you take your search for investment ideas in other directions. I myself, am learning as much about trading systems as possible. For instance, I know a reasonable amount about trading strategies, so I am interested in looking at you tube channels (specific channels that interest me: Interactive Brokers, Ambibroker, CBOE, OIC). I'm not endorsing or suggesting these or anything on these. They're risky. You must reduce risk.

You can also search the alternative websites, usually some have good trading info attached. Recently, I came across an interested tidbit - HNW are shifting their portoflios out of public stocks and into private equity and real estate (www.tiger21.com). The website quoted discusses this, as well as the composition and break down.

How did I find out this, I you tubed the FIN TECH videos and listened to the conferences. Fin Tech (financial technology) is all the rage in Augmented Intelligence and from what I can gather, will be a paradigm shift in investing.

Yes there is no relation with both. But when they need to get a website done for their business, who they contact? A website specialist. I want to be one of the recommended folks to them. They don't care about me, I get it. But they care about a service provider who is going to add value and help them earn more money. That's what I am seeking.

 

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[biophase]

Yes there is no relation with both. But when they need to get a website done for their business, who they contact? A website specialist. I want to be one of the recommended folks to them. They don't care about me, I get it. But they care about a service provider who is going to add value and help them earn more money. That's what I am seeking.

They would recommend you only if you can do a good job. Also, because they are high net worth doesn't mean you can charge them more.

Lastly, your demographic of HNW people aren't usually the ones hiring a web design company. One of their employees will probably be in charge of that.

 

[G-Man]

Yes there is no relation with both. But when they need to get a website done for their business, who they contact? A website specialist. I want to be one of the recommended folks to them. They don't care about me, I get it. But they care about a service provider who is going to add value and help them earn more money. That's what I am seeking.

Focus on creating the best product/service you can. Period. Regardless of who the customer is.

What is my end goal?

Short term goal is to sell web related services.
Long term is to build network, become an investor.

Bad news on this front. If you approach the goal of your business as an entry-way into circles of wealthy people, it will probably show, and the very people you're trying to attract will avoid you. You see, in the life of a wealthy and well-connected individual, there are tons of people trying to do this, and they have a radar for it.

Every weekend at my cigar store there's some kid that's clearly there trying to "network" and latch on to the wealthier members. It's usually with some half-cocked business idea, and in the last 3 years, I've seen it work literally zero times.

 

[Ornlu The Wolf]

Focus on creating the best product/service you can. Period. Regardless of who the customer is. Bad news on this front. If you approach the goal of your business as an entry-way into circles of wealthy people, it will probably show, and the very people you're trying to attract will avoid you. You see, in the life of a wealthy and well-connected individual, there are tons of people trying to do this, and they have a radar for it.

Every weekend at my cigar store there's some kid that's clearly there trying to "network" and latch on to the wealthier members. It's usually with some half-cocked business idea, and in the last 3 years, I've seen it work literally zero times.

Hello G-Man, so what is a good way to approach HNW people? In your example for the cigar store, what would be the right approach?

Thanks,

 

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[Fox]

Hello Ornlu here..

My expertise is in web design.

Looking to build websites for financial service providers, investors, high net worth individuals etc.

Here's my understanding so far:

I build better websites for financial planners, financial service providers so they can attract better clients.

These clients have big money, some are investors, some are millionaires.

I may get referred to these high net worth people if they need for a website.

What is my end goal?

Short term goal is to sell web related services.
Long term is to build network, become an investor.

Do you think this can work?

Thanks

Relevant story...

@MJ DeMarco was looking for someone to build his book launch site. I offered to help out and invested some time and effort to do a website for him based off of the advice in this thread. We got to connect a little and although he didn't use the site (he had his own specific design he created) we kept in touch. When his book was launched I ran a competition on my Facebook group to give away a few Unscripted books and he came on and answered some questions.

I had thought when I first started it would be cool to connect with MJ cause maybe there was some secret he could give me to boost my progress. Each time I had a question/issue though I would see if I could solve it myself before asking MJ. Guess what... every time I could. I quickly realized without even asking any mentor style questions that all the answers are already out there. There was no reason to ask anything. I figured its much more valuebale just to offer free value and maybe down the line there will be something to work on that benefits us both. I don't even know what that might be, or if there even will be something, but I had the chance to help him and went for it.

My point is that you don't need anyones advice - it is all on this forum and in tons of books you could pick up for $10. You don't need anyones mentoring - you can guide yourself and you will have to anyway. No one will hold your hand.

Focus on building your own value and these people will find you. If you want to connect with these sort of people there is no shortcut. You have to become high value yourself or be well on the way.

*This is just one example of a "high net worth person" I have worked with through web design. I have several business owners I have worked with that are doing millions of profit per year. Making web sites won't magically put you on the radar for these people - you need to be offering huge value and working on getting on that level yourself.

 

[G-Man]

Hello G-Man, so what is a good way to approach HNW people? In your example for the cigar store, what would be the right approach?

If you're thinking about "the right approach" you're still missing the point. The point is don't try to game your way into people's circle. Excel at what you do, and you will have access to excellent people.

EDIT: I should point out that I am one of the few non-wealthy members at my club. I'm not a rich person, nor do I play one on TV. I'm speaking as a 3rd party observer, here.

 

[Imgal]

I second, third and fourth (I stopped counting after 4... ) what everyone has said, but if you are really committed to this then I'd recommend you reach out to so HNWI that you've identified website issues with and fix it for them ... or at least explain how to do it.

DO NOT PITCH and definitely don't ask for money.

Make yourself so useful to them that they can't do without and still don't ask for money. Once they know and trust you and have seen you can do your stuff then you'll have a way in for life.

And if you go this method don't expect number 1, 2 or 3 to be interested. Keep plugging away

 

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[Ornlu The Wolf]

If you're thinking about "the right approach" you're still missing the point. The point is don't try to game your way into people's circle. Excel at what you do, and you will have access to excellent people.

EDIT: I should point out that I am one of the few non-wealthy members at my club. I'm not a rich person, nor do I play one on TV. I'm speaking as a 3rd party observer, here.

Appreciate the feedback. Will keep you guys informed.

 

[Ornlu The Wolf]

Relevant story...

@MJ DeMarco was looking for someone to build his book launch site. I offered to help out and invested some time and effort to do a website for him based off of the advice in this thread. We got to connect a little and although he didn't use the site (he had his own specific design he created) we kept in touch. When his book was launched I ran a competition on my Facebook group to give away a few Unscripted books and he came on and answered some questions.

I had thought when I first started it would be cool to connect with MJ cause maybe there was some secret he could give me to boost my progress. Each time I had a question/issue though I would see if I could solve it myself before asking MJ. Guess what... every time I could. I quickly realized without even asking any mentor style questions that all the answers are already out there. There was no reason to ask anything. I figured its much more valuebale just to offer free value and maybe down the line there will be something to work on that benefits us both. I don't even know what that might be, or if there even will be something, but I had the chance to help him and went for it.

My point is that you don't need anyones advice - it is all on this forum and in tons of books you could pick up for $10. You don't need anyones mentoring - you can guide yourself and you will have to anyway. No one will hold your hand.

Focus on building your own value and these people will find you. If you want to connect with these sort of people there is no shortcut. You have to become high value yourself or be well on the way.

*This is just one example of a "high net worth person" I have worked with through web design. I have several business owners I have worked with that are doing millions of profit per year. Making web sites won't magically put you on the radar for these people - you need to be offering huge value and working on getting on that level yourself.

Good to see your insights here @Fox, really if you think about it one does not need any advice, everything is out there. However one also needs to stay around with

 

[Fox]

If you're thinking about "the right approach" you're still missing the point. The point is don't try to game your way into people's circle. Excel at what you do, and you will have access to excellent people.

EDIT: I should point out that I am one of the few non-wealthy members at my club. I'm not a rich person, nor do I play one on TV. I'm speaking as a 3rd party observer, here.

Exactly. You can't game connections.

 

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[AndrewNC]

Think of this in terms of magnetic attraction.

Are you the magnet that pulls them into you, and draws them into you? How do you become that person who attracts the right type of clients for you?

Think of it as in dating - people want to be around other people of high value.

I used to want to surround myself with confident, independent, attractive women. They were the 9's and 10's and I was the 4 or 5 at best.

How could I sneak my way into their circles so they could introduce me to their other attractive, confident, outcome-independent, non-needy friends?

You don't attract what you want, you attract what you are.

I went into those situations as the type of magnet with the reverse poles - energetically pushing away the people I wanted to be with.

Then I stopped caring (stopped trying)...

I just do what I do, come across other women who have similar outlooks on life as me...and sometimes we click, sometimes we don't. One women I'm co-authoring a book with, another one I'm always offering her value (helping her setup her website, graphic design) while she helps me draft up legal contracts and will help me form an LLC because she is a lawyer).

And now I'm attracting high-quality people into my life, to me...

Because what I'm offering is attractive to them. Business, relationships, dating...it's all the same.

What makes them attracted to you?

It's not chasing after them talking about your web design and trying to convince them...It's the emotions and the subtle vibe behind what you authentically give off.

 

[biophase]

I have to share this story.

A couple years ago I was at a dinner party with Tony Hsieh, the CEO of Zappos. There was probably 30 people there and everyone was just chatting. After dinner I got my chance to sit down and chat with him. I forgot what we talked about but it wasn't business.

Anyway while we are chatting a guy joins the conversation. Then he says, "Tony how did you like the ice cream?" I think Tony said it was good. The guy goes on to mention that it's his company's ice cream and he is expanding, or franchising, I can't remember which.

I was like, WTF can't believe this dude is pitching his ice cream business to Tony right in the middle of our conversation. The guy came off as a douche bag. Definitely not the right way to meet HNW individuals.

 

[G-Man]

I have to share this story.

A couple years ago I was at a dinner party with Tony Hsieh, the CEO of Zappos. There was probably 30 people there and everyone was just chatting. After dinner I got my chance to sit down and chat with him. I forgot what we talked about but it wasn't business.

Anyway while we are chatting a guy joins the conversation. Then he says, "Tony how did you like the ice cream?" I think Tony said it was good. The guy goes on to mention that it's his company's ice cream and he is expanding, or franchising, I can't remember which.

I was like, WTF can't believe this dude is pitching his ice cream business to Tony right in the middle of our conversation. The guy came off as a douche bag. Definitely not the right way to meet HNW individuals.

@biophase were there collective eye rolls and no further mention when the guy left? That seems to be the norm from what I've witnessed.

 

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[KLaw]

I have to share this story.

A couple years ago I was at a dinner party with Tony Hsieh, the CEO of Zappos. There was probably 30 people there and everyone was just chatting. After dinner I got my chance to sit down and chat with him. I forgot what we talked about but it wasn't business.

Anyway while we are chatting a guy joins the conversation. Then he says, "Tony how did you like the ice cream?" I think Tony said it was good. The guy goes on to mention that it's his company's ice cream and he is expanding, or franchising, I can't remember which.

I was like, WTF can't believe this dude is pitching his ice cream business to Tony right in the middle of our conversation. The guy came off as a douche bag. Definitely not the right way to meet HNW individuals.

Not sure how the conversation went. But. Asking for feedback isn't a bad thang. If done correctly.

 

[Andy Black]

Relevant story...

@MJ DeMarco was looking for someone to build his book launch site. I offered to help out and invested some time and effort to do a website for him based off of the advice in this thread. We got to connect a little and although he didn't use the site (he had his own specific design he created) we kept in touch. When his book was launched I ran a competition on my Facebook group to give away a few Unscripted books and he came on and answered some questions.

I had thought when I first started it would be cool to connect with MJ cause maybe there was some secret he could give me to boost my progress. Each time I had a question/issue though I would see if I could solve it myself before asking MJ. Guess what... every time I could. I quickly realized without even asking any mentor style questions that all the answers are already out there. There was no reason to ask anything. I figured its much more valuebale just to offer free value and maybe down the line there will be something to work on that benefits us both. I don't even know what that might be, or if there even will be something, but I had the chance to help him and went for it.

My point is that you don't need anyones advice - it is all on this forum and in tons of books you could pick up for $10. You don't need anyones mentoring - you can guide yourself and you will have to anyway. No one will hold your hand.

Focus on building your own value and these people will find you. If you want to connect with these sort of people there is no shortcut. You have to become high value yourself or be well on the way.

*This is just one example of a "high net worth person" I have worked with through web design. I have several business owners I have worked with that are doing millions of profit per year. Making web sites won't magically put you on the radar for these people - you need to be offering huge value and working on getting on that level yourself.

Nice story @Fox

A few forum members reached out to me with offers to help me with things they could see I was struggling with. One is a freelance graphic designer and I've been passing him all my graphic design work since.

I'm not a HNW individual but I'm helping him build his business.



@biophase ... that story makes me embarrassed for the guy.


OP...

MJ has his PMs turned off. I can PM him though. Why is that?

I believe MJ and ICK have a great investing thread in the forum. I've not even opened it as I'm not at the money investing stage, I'm at the value creation and businesss building stage.

Do you think I send PMs to MJ asking about investing?

Are you looking to invest your own money, or other people's money? If it's your own then should you focus on becoming a HNW individual in the first place? If it's theirs then why should they trust you to do it?


Nothing wrong with wanting to build your network of business owners, and I do that by providing a B2B service similar to web design. Bring them enough new sales and revenue and you may well become their new best friend. But still, ask yourself why you're trying to do it.

 

[Ornlu The Wolf]

I have to share this story.

A couple years ago I was at a dinner party with Tony Hsieh, the CEO of Zappos. There was probably 30 people there and everyone was just chatting. After dinner I got my chance to sit down and chat with him. I forgot what we talked about but it wasn't business.

Anyway while we are chatting a guy joins the conversation. Then he says, "Tony how did you like the ice cream?" I think Tony said it was good. The guy goes on to mention that it's his company's ice cream and he is expanding, or franchising, I can't remember which.

I was like, WTF can't believe this dude is pitching his ice cream business to Tony right in the middle of our conversation. The guy came off as a douche bag. Definitely not the right way to meet HNW individuals.

This is just rude behavior in general.

 

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[Ornlu The Wolf]

Nothing wrong with wanting to build your network of business owners, and I do that by providing a B2B service similar to web design. Bring them enough new sales and revenue and you may well become their new best friend. But still, ask yourself why you're trying to do it.

Yes I want to follow a similar strategy. Want to attract other top people. Fastlane forum looks like a good place to start.

 

[biophase]

@biophase were there collective eye rolls and no further mention when the guy left? That seems to be the norm from what I've witnessed.

It sort of killed the conversation in general. That's what pissed me off. Imagine you are hanging with Elon Musk talking about how bad the Chicago Bears are this year and some dude starts to ask about the future of Tesla. Probably the last thing he wants to talk about at a dinner party and just poor taste. I wish I could remember the ice cream company name so I can look it up.