Thread: I hit the 1st page of google......Should I be bracing for lots of visitors?

First page is nice but there is big gap between #1,#2, #3 spots on first page vs. rest of that page. From what I've seen #1,#2,#3 have large majority of views, the rest get the crumbs in a rapidly declining curve. And after the first page, percentage-wise it's in the low single digits for ALL those sad people in the long tail, combined! Unable to determine what you mean by massive impact, since its unknown what the global/local keyword search volume is in total. In summary: if they got you to #1,2,or MAYBE 3 on first page, that's decent. If not, it's a wash. Or it might just take a while, who knows?

Ah, I figured!

And another question.

Why don't more people use SEO? It almost seems too good to be true. Pay a small sum of money, get high in google. Is it legitimate or am I missing something?

Originally Posted by Tommy92l

Ah, I figured!

And another question.

Why don't more people use SEO? It almost seems too good to be true. Pay a small sum of money, get high in google. Is it legitimate or am I missing something?

It is legitimate until Matt and his friends decide to release another animal from the zoo

Originally Posted by kraze

It is legitimate until Matt and his friends decide to release another animal from the zoo

What the hell are you talking about?

Are you TizeMe? Is that your project? I recognize the name from the forum.

If it is, congrats!

Also, the 'animal' in question is the updates that roll out every other day now.

Thanks man! But it still is sitting at 60-100 views a day, and that makes it seems so incredibly low for using a search term that I bet a ton of people use.

And sorry, I still don't understand what the animal thing is

Originally Posted by Tommy92l

And sorry, I still don't understand what the animal thing is

When google updates their algorithm they name it after an animal ie panda.

Any update can completely change your ranking. You could go from no1 to no72 and all your traffic vanishes in a second with all your revenue.

Don't rely solely on google for traffic

Dont waste your money on SEO. Make sure you are offering quality content. Google hates SEO. Its likely that a new update will make any SEO you pay for worthless.

IMO, even if you get to #1, most keywords would not generate you enough ad revenue to make all the work/time worth it. Ive been down this road and its been just a waste to me personally. Im no expert tho.

Offer something of quality thats needed by a group of people. Pay for traffic. Much more worth your money than paying for SEO services.

Originally Posted by Shades

Dont waste your money on SEO. Make sure you are offering quality content. Google hates SEO. Its likely that a new update will make any SEO you pay for worthless.

IMO, even if you get to #1, most keywords would not generate you enough ad revenue to make all the work/time worth it. Ive been down this road and its been just a waste to me personally. Im no expert tho.

Offer something of quality thats needed by a group of people. Pay for traffic. Much more worth your money than paying for SEO services.

Agreed. If you have something quality, the traffic that you pay for will convert. Then you know you are providing VALUE.

I thought paying for traffic was a big "No-No"? Lol, but where would I go about doing this?

Originally Posted by Tommy92l

I thought paying for traffic was a big "No-No"? Lol, but where would I go about doing this?

I used to think that way. One thing I noticed... I followed a couple big blog guys that teach that method of SEO. Put up a quick site, SEO, rank high on google, profit.

But then you notice that a vast majority of their income is from being a affiliate for various things and promoting them on their blog.

A certain one of them even puts out his monthly income/expense report to make this clear as day.

Basically he is a affiliate marketer. He simply created a blog selling this common niche SEO idea that he learned from Warrior Forum as a vehicle to market things in his teachings. He has quite the business going for himself. But that isnt gonna help you. Most of his income is not coming from what he teaches.

Paying means paying for traffic via Google/Bing PPC, not necessarily buying links (although buying links in a smart way can help your rankings).

For those that say ignore SEO...I have to roll my eyes. Having a well optimized site can mean the difference of ranking ahead of your competition. Don't ignore it.

Here I thought being on the front page was like the dream, the goldmine for internet traffic. I mean, google is enormous, and the search terms I used were picked because of how popular they were. If I got to the #1 spot, what's the stop people from clicking that and flooding it?

My problem is that, it's the traffic that will fuel people. Say I had a small program that says "Hey, you pay us a few bucks a month, we put you on the front page with a few other ads, and you get a bunch of publicity! Don't believe it will work? Take a look at our traffic!", but the traffic is not there, which tarnishes the idea.

Originally Posted by Tommy92l

Ah, I figured!

And another question.

Why don't more people use SEO? It almost seems too good to be true. Pay a small sum of money, get high in google. Is it legitimate or am I missing something?

Many do, but not always in a sustainable way.

Also, that term gets 400 local hits I think, so you're looking at lower competition possibly.

Really, dude? You think you're going to get a ton of traffic from a keyword that has so few searches, by just being on the first page? Sorry, got to call you out on this one. Why are you going after this KW?

depends on what you rank 1 for.

if you rank 1 for "how to lose weight" or "make money online" (extremely competitive)

You will rake in millions of visitors monthly.

Ranking for long tail keywords isnt that hard (low competition)

Originally Posted by JasonR

Really, dude? You think you're going to get a ton of traffic from a keyword that has so few searches, by just being on the first page? Sorry, got to call you out on this one. Why are you going after this KW?

There is nothing really to call out... ignorance is bliss I guess.

There was no way in hell I would have ever thought, that, that phrase would have been searched so low!!!

Originally Posted by Tommy92l

Thanks man! But it still is sitting at 60-100 views a day, and that makes it seems so incredibly low for using a search term that I bet a ton of people use.

Yeah Tommy as others have pointed out here, just getting on first page (or even #1 on first page), is nice, but doesn't necessarily matter by itself. The real problem is this incomplete thinking: "I bet this is a search term a ton of people use." Betting is OK starting point but why stop at betting if you could just look it up and verify your hunch?

I also just checked Google Keyword Tool for your terms, and even the looser Broad match is really low volume, and the more restrictive (more reliable) Exact match is even smaller.



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Wouldn't be too hard on you, because if you're unaware of how to look it up instead of betting, or even that that's possible, then you can't really be blamed for that kind of ignorance. And I guess some SEO companies wouldn't point out: "Hey, no one is searching for these terms, are you sure you want to spend money on this?" On the other hand, if people do know how to do basic research and just plow ahead anyway, well they deserve to fail and have their wealth transferred to the sharks out there, ha ha.

Hey at least you answered your own question: ("Is it too good to be true... pay a small sum and get high in Google? Why doesn't everyone just do this?") I hope it didn't cost you too much to learn this lesson, but take it as a useful lesson that you maybe wouldn't have absorbed if it was just given to you as a "tip".