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    Default Working at a 9-5, kind of insulting experience today. How would YOU react?

    So, I work only about 3 days a week, I've found a semi-ok way to do passive income but I still need the other job to finance the rest of my stuff (I'm 20 btw).

    So today, my boss walks up to me and says

    "Hey, you're working 5 days next week"

    Like most of you here, When I am off, I am still working...but on bigger and better projects that make money.....NOT just sitting around waiting to work my 9-5. My motivation for going to work is to realize how much I hate it, which makes me want to work harder"

    Anyway, these people just don't get it. Just because I am younger than most of the people there, they act like I'm an idiot when I say "Yeah, I am working from home, slowly building it up....I use this to finance it."

    See, I am glad I got the hours, its just more money for me...but I was EXTREMELY insulted by the way he TOLD me to it, he didn't even fucking ask! As if I didn't have friends, plans, or anything else going on. Just assuming I was a machine ready to roll at his Beck and Call. Also, I couldn't say "Listen, when I don't work here, I work at home". He'd laugh in my face!

    How would you guys have responded to this?

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    Do what you have to do to keep the job as long as you need the job. If that means eating some shit, eat some shit. You have a bigger end game.

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    At your age, I would have been happy to work two extra days. If that were to happen today, I would tell him he's going to need to find someone else to cover the shift because I have prior obligations. No argument or debate, just hey I'm letting you know. Being insulted is just the way you took it and he doesn't care if you were insulted. You are a tool in that business and they'll use use as they please. It's part of being an employee.

    One thing to keep in mind is there are certain laws in terms of changing a schedule. In California, I believe you must change an employees shift at least 48 hours before they're scheduled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vigilante View Post
    Do what you have to do to keep the job as long as you need the job. If that means eating some shit, eat some shit. You have a bigger end game.

    Agreed. And its not like I have never had someone talk down to me, obviously, its just that I didn't expect someone to present it that way.

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    Well man until you do not need that job, you take the verbal abuse just like everyone else. Then when the day comes that you can quit, walk up to him kindly and put your two weeks in. Never burn bridges, you never know when you might need someone to fall back on. Definitely make sure he remembers you though, that way in 5 years when you randomly pull up next to him at the gas station in your sick dream car you can make sure to reintroduce yourself and ask him how that 9-5 he still works at is going.

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    Well to start with I never would have only been working just 3 days a week unless I was independently wealthy or making PLENTY of money from my business.

    So my response would have been, do you think I could work 7 days a week? Yes serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrickP View Post
    Well to start with I never would have only been working just 3 days a week unless I was independently wealthy or making PLENTY of money from my business.

    So my response would have been, do you think I could work 7 days a week? Yes serious.
    Thats very true, I don't have anything to say other than "You're Right."
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    Why are you only working 3 days a week?

    Who pays for your housing, food etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy92l View Post
    So, I work only about 3 days a week, I've found a semi-ok way to do passive income but I still need the other job to finance the rest of my stuff (I'm 20 btw).

    So today, my boss walks up to me and says

    "Hey, you're working 5 days next week"

    Like most of you here, When I am off, I am still working...but on bigger and better projects that make money.....NOT just sitting around waiting to work my 9-5. My motivation for going to work is to realize how much I hate it, which makes me want to work harder"

    Anyway, these people just don't get it. Just because I am younger than most of the people there, they act like I'm an idiot when I say "Yeah, I am working from home, slowly building it up....I use this to finance it."

    See, I am glad I got the hours, its just more money for me...but I was EXTREMELY insulted by the way he TOLD me to it, he didn't even fucking ask! As if I didn't have friends, plans, or anything else going on. Just assuming I was a machine ready to roll at his Beck and Call. Also, I couldn't say "Listen, when I don't work here, I work at home". He'd laugh in my face!

    How would you guys have responded to this?
    The less certain people know about your plans to advance yourself, the harder it is to attempt to sabotage you.

    And those co-workers who you think look at you like an idiot? There's a better chance that your efforts off the job will eventually lead to you making enough progress for you to leave that job, which would leave these people questioning themselves.

    Work the hours, collect your pay, and handle your business when you have the time. And stop volunteering information to your co-workers! Unless it's someone who appreciates what you are trying to achieve...
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    When your boss says "Hey, you're working 5 days next week".. you say "Fuck you!"..

    Seriously though, use this experience, use his company to take as much information skills and ideas as you can. Skrew him up and down and side to side and he wouldn't even know it. Take his whole business strategy, and use it in your own business.. take as much as you can. He is trying to take your time away from you - so it's justified. Just be like him towards him but in a way that's not too obvious. And find more paying customers who are willing to pay you for work you love doing so you don't have to put up with this kind of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlcmartin View Post
    When your boss says "Hey, you're working 5 days next week".. you say "Fuck you!".. Seriously though, use this experience, use his company to take as much information skills and ideas as you can. Skrew him up and down and side to side and he wouldn't even know it. Take his whole business strategy, and use it in your own business.. take as much as you can. He is trying to take your time away from you - so it's justified. Just be like him towards him but in a way that's not too obvious. And find more paying customers who are willing to pay you for work you love doing so you don't have to put up with this kind of thing.
    I'll co-sign this. While you're working at this place. Observe everything that you can about the way this person runs their business. Get as much of an understanding of the structure as you can. You'll be able to apply what you have learned into the running of your own business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlcmartin View Post
    He is trying to take your time away from you
    Sorry, can't agree with this.

    He is not 'taking' anything away from you. He is 'paying' you to provide a service, to work.


    Quote Originally Posted by mlcmartin View Post
    Skrew him up and down and side to side and he wouldn't even know it.
    Is that how you will be grateful to the people that give you a salary in exchange of honest work?

    Is that how you will treat your customers in the future?
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    As an employee you're under his control, your side gigs don't mean anything to him. Secondly I wouldn't rave about how this is just to fund a side business.

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    You felt Insulted? Why?


    If you're insulted by that, than you're not ready for business. Seriously. You haven't seen anything yet.
    Good luck because you'll need it. You're going to need to be a hell of a lot tougher my friend. What are you going to do when one of your customers decides to curse you out? Are you going to feel insulted?

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    Taking job things / a boss EMOTIONAL is employees mentality.

    Feeling sad, because your boss yelled at you is employees mentality.

    Argueing with a boss, saying 'fuck you' to him is employees mentality.

    Understanding that it's business, not personal is boss mentality.

    Understanding that you use a job to make ends meet til your own business takes over is boss mentality.

    The answer is to work hard, keep your mouth shut and turn your emotions off (especially when other people try to get at you). With determination, patience and luck your time will come.

    PS: Nothing pisses people more off than a smile :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlcmartin View Post
    When your boss says "Hey, you're working 5 days next week".. you say "Fuck you!"..

    Seriously though, use this experience, use his company to take as much information skills and ideas as you can. Skrew him up and down and side to side and he wouldn't even know it. Take his whole business strategy, and use it in your own business.. take as much as you can. He is trying to take your time away from you - so it's justified. Just be like him towards him but in a way that's not too obvious. And find more paying customers who are willing to pay you for work you love doing so you don't have to put up with this kind of thing.


    Your post clearly shows your age and lack of life experience. I'd advise you to take a break from the forum and grow up. Your post is the worst advice I have ever read online. Than again I don't hang out on forums because I have real work to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Mattos View Post
    As an employee you're under his control, your side gigs don't mean anything to him. Secondly I wouldn't rave about how this is just to fund a side business.
    I agree 100%. If I was his boss he would be fired. He doesn't deserve to have a job. He's insulted by the guy who's helping him fund his project. That's laughable.

    The OP needs to get some perspective.

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    Not knowing what sort of job this, what sort of person your boss is and what
    his tone of voice was like, I still think it didn't warrant you being upset lol.

    You could even have taken it as a compliment like "hey you're doing a great
    job I need more of your help so you're working five days next week enjoy the
    money" or something like that, alot of people want a job and don't have one bro.
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    Yeah, I think I should shut up about the whole - job on the side - thing. But I mean what would someone say if I was saving up to go to college? I guess a bit different since thats more of a societal norm.

    I know I need to grow some thicker skin. See, when he said it to me it wasn't like I cried and couldn't stop thinking about it.

    It just had a very subtle impact that said "Holy shit, I finally see why people hate these jobs so much"

    Trust me, I know I've got a lot to figure out and I'm far from stable, but thanks for the advice everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by andviv View Post
    Sorry, can't agree with this.

    Is that how you will be grateful to the people that give you a salary in exchange of honest work?

    Is that how you will treat your customers in the future?
    Yes. Customers who are bitchy and disrespectful and who try to take more than what is offered to them? Yes. "Here, take your money back, go to my competitors.. they are waiting to meet you."

    Of course nothing wrong with giving honest service, delivering good products and doing the work you love and fixing things that are in need of being fixed, fixing problems (if any) after the work is done and giving good customer service - provided that you are happy and have decided to take upon you these responsibilities ahead of time as "part of the deal". Then no problem. But the op is obviously not very happy in the situation he is in. He feels that the boss is demanding more than what the OP has agreed to give.

    To the OP: perhaps you can just say "I'm all booked, sorry. Can we do it next week?" if it doesn't work for him and he wants to find someone else to do the work then fine. I mean, it only means that the specific kind of work done by YOU wasn't valuable enough for him anyway. You deserve better.

    OR: sure, I can work the whole week but it will cost you extra (name a higher hourly rate).

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