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    Default Taking a site from 50 people a day to 10,000 a day - in 1 year

    Started a new site a little bit ago, have been letting it age just a little (and was working on other sites). Figured keeping a public record of my work would keep me focused and maybe help some people.

    About the site: It's a weight loss site, going to be building an email list with aweber with it, and also selling weight loss products on the site. The goal is to get 10k people a day 1 year ( 80% must be search engine traffic) from now, and to be making at least 500+ a day from it.



    Current date----------Current hits a day

    March 26th, 2011 -------------------- 50




    Future Goals


    May 1st - 250 hits a day
    June 1st - 500 hits a day
    July 1st - 800 hits a day
    Aug 1st- 1200 hits a day


    Site stats as of March 26th

    36 Posts
    880 Links in Yahoo
    1200 links in Google - from 250 unique domains

    How I plan to build links and get visitors:

    - Add at least one post a day ( Writing the content myself)
    - Built a lot of links from a lot of different places ( A lot of outsourcing)
    - High quality links will be built by myself

    Current seo budget: $500
    Spent so far: $209

    Will use 100% of site profit to go back into the seo budget

    Rankings for keywords

    Keyword #1 - Rank 8 ( 13k hits a month)
    Keyword #2 - Rank 9 ( 12k hits a month)


    I will do big updates monthly, and small updates weekly.

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    1 week update

    41 posts
    941 links in yahoo
    Same links in google

    Site traffic is about 60 a day now. Today I just ranked on a keyword I did not even go for. And the keyword has more traffic than my keyword 1 and 2 combined. I ranked for it in yahoo go figure. My traffic today is about 90 people, expect to reach 150 by the end of today. Although not sure if my position will be pushed back or not, hopefully it will stay at number #3 in Yahoo.

    My site stats from last week: imgur: the simple image sharer

    Site stats this week: imgur: the simple image sharer

    Keyword #1 rank 7
    Keyword #2 rank 7


    Goal for next week 100+ people a day. And keywords to be position 5 or under.

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    Weight loss site ? oO
    Do you provide something different from the other weight loss sites ? Or is this mainly SEO work
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    Only high quality information at the moment. Looking for idea's to diversify it a little though. Site's moving up the ranks because of seo work mostly, and I am getting a few return visitors.

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    I have boatloads of weight loss traffic. Leave me PM and *maybe* we can do a link swap or something. No promises but I'll look at it.

    Rich
    "A good plan violently executed right now is far better than a perfect plan executed next week." -- George S. Patton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatlander View Post
    I have boatloads of weight loss traffic. Leave me PM and *maybe* we can do a link swap or something. No promises but I'll look at it.

    Rich
    Thanks for the offer rich, I'll pass on it from now though especially since my site has little to offer in Page rank and traffic.

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    Also todays traffic hit 190 which is nearly four times since last week. Although I did drop on the yahoo keyword, which was expect. I am looking for 100+ visitors tomorrow hopefully. Optimizing my site more, building more links and more content, hopefully I can double my traffic in a week or so.

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    Okay, let me know if you change your mind.
    "A good plan violently executed right now is far better than a perfect plan executed next week." -- George S. Patton

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    This week's report

    All my keywords have been pushed back 100+ positions I now rank for nothing practically

    Keyword 1 position 107
    Keyword 2 position 110

    This week my traffic was about 150-200 people a day, about 2 days ago my keyword ranks tanked now am getting 20-30 people a day. When I was getting 150-200 people a day I was getting a sale every day, so I made back $200 that I spent on seo.

    Currently I am writing more articles and building more and more links, I hope to regain all my ranks within a week or two and come out even better.

    Progress picture: http://i.imgur.com/6hCHp.jpg
    Analytics picture: http://i.imgur.com/Xlmt0.jpg

    Got to love seo, you never know how badly things can go in a few hours. I am not surprised by my ranking drop, since my site has been getting a lot of links and posts, pretty much right now I have 1/2 of the links my competition has and their sites are 2 years+ old while mine has the half of their links in only 2 months of hardcore seo.

    Anyone have any experiences with there site dropping like this ?

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    If you have a new domain name and you're building links that fast without a proper distribution of high PR links as well as news syndicated backlinks you run the risk of being sandboxed... Your link profile will be muddied by all of the garbage links if you focus too much on forum spam and blog comment spam.

    G's algorithm takes <div> tag placement in relation to backlinks into account to discern blog comment spam. I think it was one of the many updates that occurred during the google farmer update.

    My advice to you is to focus on quality more than quantity backlinks. Short tail is nice, but long tail builds wealth.

    Sincerely, former SEO agency owner.

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    Hey thanks for the advice, this was my seo done so far.

    Site is about 4 months old, back-linking for only maybe two months, 1 month serious

    150+ Do follow social bookmarking (digg,reddit, etc)
    1k+ Blog posts on blogs ranging from 0pr to 4 pr ( in content links, with 70%+ spun content) Different C class ips, and very well diversified.
    500+ Article posts on article directories ranging from 0pr to 6 pr ( 35+% spun content)
    Site wide link on 5+ sites with page ranks of 1 to 4
    Blog posts on high quality related sites with PR of 3+

    My seo strategy is pretty grayhat I would say, I build a lot of high quality links in related sites by guest blogging etc. I haven't comment spammed with scrapbox/ or used any xrummer's profile link type of things. Currently I am losing to a site ( Position 5) with 150 links, and the links are spammed out xrummer profile links, got to love Google's algorithm, its like a retarded goat.

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    How many exact match searches per month?

    What's the PR and domain age of the top five pages?

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    Having more traffic is nice, but having more conversion is better. 10,000 visitors a day is going to make you $40-$80 a day in adsense. At this point and this size, work on your sales funnel and figure out how to make $150 a day from your 50 visitors, then scale it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by healthstatus View Post
    Having more traffic is nice, but having more conversion is better. 10,000 visitors a day is going to make you $40-$80 a day in adsense. At this point and this size, work on your sales funnel and figure out how to make $150 a day from your 50 visitors, then scale it.
    I don't use adsense it's not worth it, especially in my niche. For every 150 visitors or so I earn about $30-40 dollars. Without even an email list, when I build my email list I would expect more. With adsense on the other hand I earn about $5 with 150 visitors. Good advice though, conversion is what matters. 1k people a day and 10% conversion is better to get than 10k people a day and 1% conversion.

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    Links in yahoo 946
    Links in Google 2850 ( site wide links bring up this number)

    Keyword positions- My keywords have been going up and down wildly, from position 50 to position 700, changing daily. Haven't build much links or content since last week, been really busy. My main page was the page ranking highly for the keywords, and it's been completely wiped from the rankings, so am going to go back to it and change stuff around like adding new content and making sure it's legit.

    My daily traffic has been around 20-30 people highly un-targeted ( coming in for random keywords, that were not intended)

    This weeks stats:

    http://i.imgur.com/0dp0q.jpg

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    Good news, all my keywords jumped to the top of the serps, 100+ positions, my traffic is back to the 100+ range.

    Keyword 1 position #4
    Keyword 2 position #5

    Hoping to get these keywords to #1 each this week, that should get me 200-300 people via Google.

    I am also ranking for another 2 keywords which bring in about 10k people ( position 15-20 ) so not bad.

    Stats have improved:

    http://i.imgur.com/Ys9ZF.jpg

    Had a few bumps in the road ( Google algo update screwed things up for everyone it seems) everything is fine now, hope traffic keeps growing.

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    I'm in the dieting nieche (quite specialized) as well and about 5k visits per day makes me £50+ in adsense, without it being pushed too hard on my visitors.

    If you avoid adsense is it your own product you're selling or something else? Looking to diversify my income streams too

    Curious about your traffic, do the latest stats mean you achieved your goals early, or am I misreading something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joanna View Post
    I'm in the dieting nieche (quite specialized) as well and about 5k visits per day makes me £50+ in adsense, without it being pushed too hard on my visitors.

    If you avoid adsense is it your own product you're selling or something else? Looking to diversify my income streams too

    Curious about your traffic, do the latest stats mean you achieved your goals early, or am I misreading something?
    I am promoting someone else's product and cpa offers at the moment. I haven't reached my goal since my traffic tanked in the middle of the month, but I have taken traffic from 50 people to a day to 150 this month. I have less then 5 days to reach my goal of 250 people a day.


    5k traffic a day is amazing in the diet/weight loss niche, you should be making ALOT more.


    Do you have an email list? If so how big is it, with an email list you can push quality offers to your visitors and increase your sales. Also your revenue depends on the quality of your traffic, if your ranking your site on "how to lose weight fast" etc you should have no problem easily converting people into buyers.

    If you don't mind you can pm your site link and ill pm you some products which you can promote that are suitable for your traffic. Or you can join a CPA network/clickbank and see for yourself.

    Also the pictures are from my Google webmasters account and not analytics so it goes by the number of impressions and not clicks. So even though I get 8k impressions a day my site is only clicked on 50-200 times ( traffic)


    If you have any tips for building traffic they would be appreicated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatlander View Post
    Okay, let me know if you change your mind.
    well we should talk in any case then.

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    I've sent you a PM.

    Do have a list, but only started sending out stuff to it recently, at the moment it serves more as an update newsletter to get people to come back to the site, not really selling anything.

    It's not quite "how to lose weight fast", so not all traffic is buyers.

    Tried clickbank before got a few sales per week, but it wasn't really well aligned with my site. I try to focus on honesty and genuine content, while the ebook was let's say the typical clickbank product But I thought I can keep it advert style not emphasizing it too much. That is until the author of the original book on this diet contacted me enquiring about ways of reaching the ebook author about copyright issues... (I've got a connection to the original author via a shared colleague)

    Also the pictures are from my Google webmasters account and not analytics so it goes by the number of impressions and not clicks. So even though I get 8k impressions a day my site is only clicked on 50-200 times ( traffic)
    Ah, that would explain. Was trying to figure out where in analytics would you get a report looking like that However 8k impressions out of even 200 clicks, that's what 20 pageviews per person? :O

    As for tips, with my site I haven't actually done much. Just happened to hit a need, and providing genuine content, as well as answering sometimes stupid questions turns out was enough for other people to do the promoting for me. I've done a few SEO tweaks, but not really excessively, so I know I have still a bit of work to do on that front once I'm done with some other projects. it helps to differentiate yourself from competition, and to use social networks - but I think if you abuse the latter one it could harm you in the long run, so should eb careful with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joanna View Post
    I've sent you a PM.

    Do have a list, but only started sending out stuff to it recently, at the moment it serves more as an update newsletter to get people to come back to the site, not really selling anything.

    It's not quite "how to lose weight fast", so not all traffic is buyers.

    Tried clickbank before got a few sales per week, but it wasn't really well aligned with my site. I try to focus on honesty and genuine content, while the ebook was let's say the typical clickbank product But I thought I can keep it advert style not emphasizing it too much. That is until the author of the original book on this diet contacted me enquiring about ways of reaching the ebook author about copyright issues... (I've got a connection to the original author via a shared colleague)



    Ah, that would explain. Was trying to figure out where in analytics would you get a report looking like that However 8k impressions out of even 200 clicks, that's what 20 pageviews per person? :O

    As for tips, with my site I haven't actually done much. Just happened to hit a need, and providing genuine content, as well as answering sometimes stupid questions turns out was enough for other people to do the promoting for me. I've done a few SEO tweaks, but not really excessively, so I know I have still a bit of work to do on that front once I'm done with some other projects. it helps to differentiate yourself from competition, and to use social networks - but I think if you abuse the latter one it could harm you in the long run, so should eb careful with that.
    Definetly going to try and get more social networking traffic, and direct, since no one likes being controlled by Google

    Checked out your site, it looks great. I definitely think you should be able to double your daily income. I subscribed to a bunch of diet/weight loss sites ( to see how other people promote their products) and it seems to be the norm to send emails 1-2 times per week. One email as free information and another promoting a product.

    If you use something like aweber you should set automated message when people sign up, and work people up to purchasing a product. Your traffic will be harder to convert then my, since your traffic is most likely not in the "right mood" ( searching for freebies and ( and not desperate ). Also am not sure but I assume most of your traffic is long tail like, "Good weight loss book for diabetics over 40 " or something like that? ( around 3-5 word keywords) this traffic is usually harder to convert ( for me anyway)

    Your best bet is to make your own Ebook for sure, then promote it.

    Also I wish I had 8k impressions, the 8k impressions is how much times my site is shown on Google. Out of 8k times my site is shown, only about 100-200 people click on it. And my page views are about 2-3. Here's an analytics picture:

    http://i.imgur.com/5cFcp.jpg

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