Thread: AZ / Arizona Photo Radar - Get Out Of That Ticket!

First the disclaimer. I am not a lawyer and this is not to be
construed as professional advice. I am a citizen of the USA and
a resident of Arizona who is staunchly opposed to "big brother" photo cameras and video recording on public highways.

I am opposed to funding the state government coffers with this "program".

For anyone who has been victimized with one of these gifts of government, here is how to get out of the ticket and exercise your rights under the law:

First, don't speed. Not getting a speeding ticket is the best defense. However, on an empty road the Arizona Statutes regarding speed are clear -- photo radar ignores what the law says. So if you get one of these tickets in the mail .... try the following:

1) Don't pay it. Convince yourself that you never saw the ticket -- yes, it was mailed to some address in the Cayman Islands.

2) After 30 days, tell everyone in your family "DO NOT OPEN YOUR DOOR WHEN THE DOORBELL RINGS". This is the process server. The PS needs to give you the service IN PERSON -- he cannot leave it on the door.

3) The PS will try to get you at the address on your license (OR) the registration for the car. At both locations, you cannot be answering doorbells!

4) Avoid doorbells and strangers for 90 days.

5) After the 90, ticket will be dismissed. You can check most circuit court dockets online to see the dismissal.

6) You win, the government bureaucracy LOSES.

I've had two of these and had both dismissed. In one case, the process server tried to serve my mother instead of me (my license addy was never updated) ... My mother told the server that I lived in Laguna Beach for the summers and wouldn't be around until September. HA HA! Despite that, they tried to serve her in lieu of me and failed -- a complaint was filed with the court citing illegal service.

The photo on the ticket usually discerns who was driving.

Well, as a person that spends a lot of time running on roads, I get tired of crazy drivers. I have an extreme pet peeve against red light runners and wish that there were much more serious consequences for those willing to hurt someone for the sake of saving a couple minutes.

I had a friend that was killed by a red light runner. I almost ran right into the path of a cement truck that ran a red light. A passenger screamed at me and I slammed my brakes on in time to avoid a collision.

The big brother approach is the only viable option to slowing this down. There are not enough police to cover the situation.

Geez, I'm turning into an old fogie...

I read something about a similar setup recently -- going through red lights.

The camera triggers if a light is red and you are in the intersection.

They send the registrant of the vehicle a ticket.

The concept was that it would increase income AND make driving safer.

What they found was that neither came true.

Drivers locked up their breaks at the camera lights, causing an increase in rear-end accidents.

On top of that, since more people did stop going through the lights, the income never increased.

Just to ensure that my hypocricy is recognized, I did get flashed for speeding about 3 years ago. I didn't like it but I paid my dues.

Yep, we are talking apples and oranges here. My gripe is the red light running where I am in full support of the cameras.

Around here it seems that everywhere they put up a red light camera they also shortened the time on the yellow light. I have seen some really quick yellows

Originally Posted by PhxMJ

The photo on the ticket usually discerns who was driving.

Originally Posted by PhxMJ

My behavior when observed by photo radar? Ticket.
My behavior when observed by a live police officer? No ticket.

That is my bone.

Precisely. I'm sure the same goes for other areas, but Charlotte area officials try to make it seem better by claiming "it doesn't count as points on your license, ONLY a $50 fine." It's bull, just a legal scam.

Slight thread hijack here ....

This thread is somewhat of an experiment, and perhaps a lesson, in SEO ...

This topic is searched a lot on the engines ... I'm seeing if this thread, after indexing, will rank highly for the search topic. If it does, it should result in free, organic traffic for fastlane. Not necessarily highly targeted -- however I can deduce that the mass populace is interested in creating more income.

We shall see in a few days ...



Arizona Photo Radar Laws

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www . radarhunter . com

Several counties have spent billions installing these camera devices, but why?
Revenue.
Several studies show that these cameras not only increase accidents but don't reduce the number speeders / red light runners. There are several different ways to reduce these violations that don't include a set of 15 million dollar cameras... They aren't even real tickets... you don't have to pay them and they are dropped after 120 days of violation... Several schools around the U.S. are struggling to get by, dropping programs, losing credibility, and we are spending money on these ridiculous cameras.

Radar Hunter
radarhunter.com

Man, the USA is easy on its citizens... If you get a fine in my state, it is owed forever, including interest, indexed for inflation. If you don't pay it, the state can issue an arrest warrant for you (only reserved for bad cases, but it still has the power).

Getting a ticket here is an on-the-spot fine by the police (including cameras), with the dollar value and payment instructions on it. It only goes to court if it is disputed.