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    Default How important it intelligence?

    How important is it in the fastlane to be intelligent?
    and if you say it is important or not important, what is your definition of intelligence?

    How about being creative?
    How about being more 'brainy' then 'handy'?

    If you had to make a top 3 of important qualities for fastlane, what would it be?
    What would be the most defeating?

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    Adaptable to change
    Persistent and consistent selling machine

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    I would define intelligence as a sort of thinking ability. You have to think. The Fastlane is like chess and you are going to come across choices where you have to come up with something clever to lose the competition etc. People/Entrepreneurs just don't think. Why? Because people don't like resistance and they are short sighted; they want answers to problems in seconds not hours or even days or months.

    But I would say Determination is the number one trait. You have to be determined to gain knowledge and apply it to win.

    The worst I would say is narcissism(I wanna be rich! I want nice stuff!) and Know it all(I KNOW this venture/idea is gonna work!) type people. These are the Wally Wantrepreneur type people. They stubbornly call themselves Entrepreneurs when in reality they are just selfish and dumb people(most common).
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    I was an A+ student during my school years.

    Everybody predicted I would be extremely successful.

    My grades backed me up!

    Then the real world happened...

    And people with "people-skills" were the ones dominating everything...

    I think it is true, "A students work for C students"

    Of course I've seen many exceptions, but the classical definition of Intelligence does not translate in the business world --or the 'friends' world-- if you don't know what to do with it.
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    Real intelligence is problem solving and what I call plussing (take an existing idea and add something to make it significantly better), if you have those two, you have the best ride on the fastlane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skys View Post
    How important is it in the fastlane to be intelligent?
    and if you say it is important or not important, what is your definition of intelligence?

    How about being creative?
    How about being more 'brainy' then 'handy'?

    If you had to make a top 3 of important qualities for fastlane, what would it be?
    What would be the most defeating?

    I think you have to be inquisitive and curious.

    Are you the type that is always questioning things? That is good.

    I think reading comprehension skills and ability to synthesize vasts amounts of information down to the facts is extremely important. You have to be able to acquire information from many sources and spit out decisions based on that information. So I think being well read and remaining on top of all types of information is extremely helpful.

    I agree being adaptable to change, flexible and resilient.

    Being able to delay gratification

    Being able to sell, which requires a genuine desire to help others, requires that you have devoted some time to understanding what makes people tick and what drives people to do things (being inquisitive comes into play again)

    I think the most defeating is being immature, selfish, and entitled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socaldude View Post
    The worst I would say is narcissism(I wanna be rich! I want nice stuff!) and Know it all(I KNOW this venture/idea is gonna work!) type people. These are the Wally Wantrepreneur type people. They stubbornly call themselves Entrepreneurs when in reality they are just selfish and dumb people(most common).
    Why do u think these are the worst?

    I think it is true, "A students work for C students"
    How so?

    I think the most defeating is being immature, selfish, and entitled.
    why do you think that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skys View Post
    I think it is true, "A students work for C students"
    How so?
    'C' Students More Successful than 'A' Students - Careers Articles

    The success of 'C' students happens mostly because they were learning about the world and how to manage it when the 'A' students were tethered to their books. 'C' students competed for class office, put in plenty of time at the college newspaper, started advocacy organizations, worked part time, fell in love too often, and engaged in other activities.
    All that provided direct insight into what makes people tick, how the world really operates, and strategies for recovering from a defeat.
    Former chief executive officer of Home Depot and head of Cererbus Operating and Advisory Company Robert Nardelli was a so-so student. Where he put his energy was in making his mark in organizations such as the Boy Scouts. After he wasn't appointed chief executive officer of GE, he sure nailed down other big jobs.
    President John F. Kennedy was no brain, but his golden gut told him to surround himself with those who were (note: they worked for him). And you know how lackluster a student President George W. Bush had been. One-term president Jimmy Carter was the brain.
    So, how does this information help your career? Here are some applications:
    The fields demanding book smarts, ranging from law to college teaching, are shrinking. Do well enough in your courses to learn what you need to. The important thing is to make contacts for your internships and job search. Hands-on experience trumps book learnin'.

    Be wary of going to work or joining in a start-up where scores from standardized tests and academic grades are valued. Likely, they are out of touch. The new normal is all about street smarts.

    Had you been an 'A' student, get over it. Learn to learn from more direct ways such as observation and then connecting the dots on your own. Connect those dots in an innovative way and you could become very successful.
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    Intelligence has also been correlated to cognitive biases.

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    Some of the most intelligent people arround us are often not the people you would expect. It could be the binman for example or the cleaner in your school.

    Allot of the most scarily intelligent people on the planet, The Savents, do not even have jobs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skys View Post
    Why do u think these are the worst?
    Because most Wantrapreneurs are like this. They focus on money not value. They are know it alls (I Know my idea will work!, I Don't need to read! I'll just outsource it!") And they stubbornly call themselves Entrepreneurs. my 2 cents.
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    Up to this day mankind has not found the one and only answer to the question: What is intelligence?

    There is no 1+1=2 definition for things like intelligence or who is dumb or smart etc.

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    Important, but it's not the only variable.
    Hardwork, Determination, Luck, etc all count too.
    Winning is not found in the prize, winning is found in the doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skys View Post
    why do you think that?
    Because being immature, selfish and entitled leads people to do things without consideration of others, it is a "ME ME ME!!! ALL ABOUT ME! MY NEEDS, MY DESIRES, ME ME ME! LOOK AT ME!! FOCUS ON ME!!"...No good is coming from that. I don't care if it is in business or personal lives. How can a person possibly focus on the needs, wants and selfishness of others if they are wrapped up in the same narcissistic thinking? It is destructive and if you go into business and possess those character traits, your chances of being one of the 95% failures, skyrockets.

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    Interesting. I was an A student in high school. Never got below an 85% on anything, graduated near the top of my class. 94% GPA.

    I was having a conversation with my uncle after the Super Bowl. He said that he was glad that I ended up with B's my first semester in college. He said that I needed to be humbled the way I was because it's one of life's most important lessons. I had always considered myself one of the most intelligent people in the room. Thinking that way is extremely limiting and he was right: I had put myself in an 'intellectual bubble' even though the truth was (and still is) that I'm just a kid with little real life experience and with no reason to be as pretentious as I acted (and sometimes still act).

    Although that feeling of being intelligent is something that I miss sometimes. Good thing it's not the only thing in life worth living for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeingChewsie View Post
    Because being immature, selfish and entitled leads people to do things without consideration of others, it is a "ME ME ME!!! ALL ABOUT ME! MY NEEDS, MY DESIRES, ME ME ME! LOOK AT ME!! FOCUS ON ME!!"...No good is coming from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skys View Post
    How important is it in the fastlane to be intelligent?
    I can only speak for my own experience, but sometimes I find that I'm too smart for my own good, and bias toward plotting and speculation instead of simply executing and seeing what happens. I would gladly trade some IQ points for better execution -- I think I would work a lot harder if I knew I wasn't so intelligent... it makes me kind of lazy, and it's hard to get out of that trap.

    I also have a lot of really intelligent friends and colleagues. Many of them have severe social problems, and we've talked about what we think causes that. The general consensus is that with the intelligence comes a higher level of awareness and sensitivity, and that it makes it really uncomfortable to have to deal with people who can't see it / don't get it. A good position? Who can say, the human experience can only be subjective, and inside this box the grass sometimes appears to be greener on the other side.

    I want to be clear that I'm not trying to be on a high horse or toot my own horn here. My conclusion is that you'll feel a lot better and have more success if you work with what you have rather than worrying about deficiencies and envying others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somniloquist View Post
    I can only speak for my own experience, but sometimes I find that I'm too smart for my own good, and bias toward plotting and speculation instead of simply executing and seeing what happens. I would gladly trade some IQ points for better execution -- I think I would work a lot harder if I knew I wasn't so intelligent... it makes me kind of lazy, and it's hard to get out of that trap.

    I also have a lot of really intelligent friends and colleagues. Many of them have severe social problems, and we've talked about what we think causes that. The general consensus is that with the intelligence comes a higher level of awareness and sensitivity, and that it makes it really uncomfortable to have to deal with people who can't see it / don't get it. A good position? Who can say, the human experience can only be subjective, and inside this box the grass sometimes appears to be greener on the other side.

    I want to be clear that I'm not trying to be on a high horse or toot my own horn here. My conclusion is that you'll feel a lot better and have more success if you work with what you have rather than worrying about deficiencies and envying others.
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    @ somniquilist - What you said was inline with my thinking about too much intelligence actually becomes a handicap in normal everyday life. I do not fit into that category but I can understand and also have a very special friend who has an extreme IQ and comes from a family littered with geniouses. Unfortuately with their gifted intelligence comes other physical problems
    My friend has an uncle who is a real life savent. She told me that you can take him anywhere in the world, as long as it is on a roadmap and he can tell you where he is, the name of the road and give you directions to any place you want to go. Mindblowing stuff and extremely fascinating.
    What I like about my friend too, is that she can see, feel, taste, smell and hear numbers and letters. That to me is cool!
    So, like I said I am not a very intelligent person but I really like intelligent people, because they can see things I can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alty View Post
    @ somniquilist - What you said was inline with my thinking about too much intelligence actually becomes a handicap in normal everyday life. I do not fit into that category but I can understand and also have a very special friend who has an extreme IQ and comes from a family littered with geniouses. Unfortuately with their gifted intelligence comes other physical problems
    My friend has an uncle who is a real life savent. She told me that you can take him anywhere in the world, as long as it is on a roadmap and he can tell you where he is, the name of the road and give you directions to any place you want to go. Mindblowing stuff and extremely fascinating.
    What I like about my friend too, is that she can see, feel, taste, smell and hear numbers and letters. That to me is cool!
    So, like I said I am not a very intelligent person but I really like intelligent people, because they can see things I can't.
    Well, being with your friend's uncle must really be an experience you never forget. I've been interested in special people and special skills since I was a kid. I always wanted a special skill but like you said, with such skills (or extremely high intelligence) come other problems. I consider myself as average intelligent and I like it this way. My gift is that I have a strong visualisation of goals I want to achieve but have problems with execution on the other hand. In my head everything seems to be so easy and doable but when it comes to reality, I often get confused and give up. This is a major problem I have to solve.

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