Thread: Hang Around With People Who Get Shit Done

The converse is true as well: Ditch the people who don’t do shit.

That is why I ditched about 30% of my Facebook friends recently

To answer people who want to know whether college/university is worth it, it's worth it for this very reason. In college, it's very easy to scope out the people who do shit with their lives. The people with cool projects, the people who get straight A's, the people who lead clubs, etc. be friends with them and follow their lead. I think that's the biggest tip I could give to someone who is starting their freshman year of college.

The typical people who get straight As make good employees.

I made As, Bs but for the most part Cs because it was the bare minimum to not get acedemic probation. I could have easily made all As, but I realized that my time is better spent on things that will directly help me. I got into business school using my plam of no worse than a 2.5 GPA and I graduated with a 2.9.

Originally Posted by Kak

The typical people who get straight As make good employees.

I made As, Bs but for the most part Cs because it was the bare minimum to not get acedemic probation. I could have easily made all As, but I realized that my time is better spent on things that will directly help me. I got into business school using my plam of no worse than a 2.5 GPA and I graduated with a 2.9.

What's wrong with hanging out with good employees? You might be the one hiring them.

True true, but dont rule out the real go getters. The people who make the decision to not make As because they are working on building a business...

I had college on cruise control, intentionally. I know there are slackers too.

Originally Posted by Kak

True true, but dont rule out the real go getters. The people who make the decision to not make As because they are working on building a business...

Those come in all shapes and sizes. From my experience, though, they are hard to find. For example, my old university has an entrepreneur Facebook group, but it seems that the only people who are really getting out there and doing things have already graduated. The rest of them are people who ask things like 'How to I get an angel?' and 'I'm looking for a programmer to be a 50/50 partner with me, you must sign an NDA' to me those don't look like real go-getters.

Pretty much!

Pretty much MLM people, Cutco, Mary Kay, etc. Its funny how people think that once they graduate they will somehow become successful.

Its stupid, i could have done more during college for my business as well. I graduated with a reasonable amount of monthly income from it to get an apartment and continue my busimess.

I've been on and off at the community college by my house, it has about 40,000 registered students and feeds into Cal Berkeley and UC Davis. The thing is its been hard to find people who get stuff done as most people who attend go there because they didn't want to go straight to a 4 year or it was harder to get in out of high school than as a transfer student. This past semester I started making friends with the foreign exchange students. My guess is there are about 3,000 maybe higher. These are the students who are really getting things done as they all left there countries to come to the community college to try to get into Cal Berkeley, Stanford, UC Davis, and the top American Schools. I'd say 98% of all club creators and club members are foreign students. I honestly didn't even know that my school had clubs until I made friends with one Korean Student in my golf class. Next semester were starting an entrepreneurship club.

Originally Posted by The-J

Those come in all shapes and sizes. From my experience, though, they are hard to find. For example, my old university has an entrepreneur Facebook group, but it seems that the only people who are really getting out there and doing things have already graduated. The rest of them are people who ask things like 'How to I get an angel?' and 'I'm looking for a programmer to be a 50/50 partner with me, you must sign an NDA' to me those don't look like real go-getters.

This is what I always stress to people. ANYBODY can call themselves an Entrepreneur. MOST Entrepreneurs out there are people you DO NOT wanna go into business with. They are stupid and they are "know it alls". They are not honest and a load of other negative traits.
I'm not saying you can't find good people, no sir, but it's rare.

My list of good traits are Entrepreneurs who are Honest, Disciplined, Intelligent, Determined and Ability to "see around the corner".

At my State University, Entrepreneurship is promoted like CRAZY, which is relieving after constant typical Slowlane propaganda. Which is awesome because you meet people who wanna go to the same place you wanna go.

But beware of those Wantrapreneurs who just mentally masturbate at the THOUGHT of a successful enterprise even though they say they don't. You know those people, the people who just TALK AND TALK AND TALK about ideas, they're not Confident, they don't wanna learn shit, they think you can build an amazing business WITHOUT learning anything, they waste time, they don't think/ come up with strategies/ unique insights/ unique perspectives etc.

It sounds "good"

There are lots of people out there busy getting shit done, getting the wrong shit done.

Instead of hanging out with people who get shit done.
Hang out with people with solid goals, who finish what they start and attain their goals.

Originally Posted by socaldude

This is what I always stress to people. ANYBODY can call themselves an Entrepreneur. MOST Entrepreneurs out there are people you DO NOT wanna go into business with. They are stupid and they are "know it alls". They are not honest and a load of other negative traits.
I'm not saying you can't find good people, no sir, but it's rare.

My list of good traits are Entrepreneurs who are Honest, Disciplined, Intelligent, Determined and Ability to "see around the corner".

At my State University, Entrepreneurship is promoted like CRAZY, which is relieving after constant typical Slowlane propaganda. Which is awesome because you meet people who wanna go to the same place you wanna go.

But beware of those Wantrapreneurs who just mentally masturbate at the THOUGHT of a successful enterprise even though they say they don't. You know those people, the people who just TALK AND TALK AND TALK about ideas, they're not Confident, they don't wanna learn shit, they think you can build an amazing business WITHOUT learning anything, they waste time, they don't think/ come up with strategies/ unique insights/ unique perspectives etc.

I said this before, but when I was at a lecture, the person at the podium asked 'How many of you foresee yourselves being an entrepreneur at some point in your lives?' An overwhelming majority said 'Yes'.

Start-ups are in now. The 'scene' is huge, and it's thanks to the social media billionaires. But they just talk about the lifestyle of an entrepreneur, getting rich and partying hard and all that stuff. Entrepreneur is the new rock star among college aged kids. But none of them want to go into the basement or garage and practice for hours.

What keeps me going is the thought of not wanting to be like them, even though some of them are great friends of mine.

Originally Posted by The-J

To answer people who want to know whether college/university is worth it, it's worth it for this very reason. In college, it's very easy to scope out the people who do shit with their lives. The people with cool projects, the people who get straight A's, the people who lead clubs, etc. be friends with them and follow their lead. I think that's the biggest tip I could give to someone who is starting their freshman year of college.

WHAT?????

And how did you come to this conclusion at the ripe old age of 18 seeing as how none of your friends have gone on to do anything because they are still in college.

I was the biggest party guy in my dorm. I had partys in my room where we went through 4 half kegs.

I spent all day playing tennis and all night having fun.

I am not worth multiples of what my friends who graduated with honors and became vps and ceos of companies are worth.

Originally Posted by The-J

Start-ups are in now. The 'scene' is huge, and it's thanks to the social media billionaires. But they just talk about the lifestyle of an entrepreneur, getting rich and partying hard and all that stuff. Entrepreneur is the new rock star among college aged kids. But none of them want to go into the basement or garage and practice for hours.

Dead on.

The thought of recognition, fame, impressing people, money is the allure to the Wantrapreneur. Nothing wrong with that, but these Wantrapreneurs focus too much on the EFFECTS(money, fame etc) and not the CAUSES of successful Entrepreneurship. It really is a pandemic.

By causes of successful entrepreneurship I mean critical thinking, sacrifice, discipline, sweat and tears, execution of the idea etc.

Originally Posted by PatrickP

WHAT?????

And how did you come to this conclusion at the ripe old age of 18 seeing as how none of your friends have gone on to do anything because they are still in college.

I was the biggest party guy in my dorm. I had partys in my room where we went through 4 half kegs.

I spent all day playing tennis and all night having fun.

I am not worth multiples of what my friends who graduated with honors and became vps and ceos of companies are worth.

Truth, I don't know who is going to do what. But I see people who already have the motivation to succeed, no matter what they want to do. I'm not ruling out the people who don't know what they want to do yet. I don't know what I truly want to do yet. I have a project and I have school. I have friends, I have girlfriend and I have fun. Shit's simple now. The way I've seen it (and I'm basing this on the people I've known who are older than I and who are doing quite well) is that the people who take advantage of their college experience are generally able to take advantage of the rest of their life.

I have a few questions for you, to keep the thread conversation moving: are you still friends with a lot of the people you knew in college? And do you know people who regret the things they did (or, better yet, didn't do) in college?

I know people change, but as I'm not grown up yet (or I don't feel 'grown-up' yet) I haven't gotten to see much of that change happen. I'm curious as to how people older than I have noticed it.

Originally Posted by The-J

Truth, I don't know who is going to do what. But I see people who already have the motivation to succeed, no matter what they want to do. I'm not ruling out the people who don't know what they want to do yet. I don't know what I truly want to do yet. I have a project and I have school. I have friends, I have girlfriend and I have fun. Shit's simple now. The way I've seen it (and I'm basing this on the people I've known who are older than I and who are doing quite well) is that the people who take advantage of their college experience are generally able to take advantage of the rest of their life.

I have a few questions for you, to keep the thread conversation moving: are you still friends with a lot of the people you knew in college? And do you know people who regret the things they did (or, better yet, didn't do) in college?

I'd say PatrickP made the most of his college experience, where else can you throw a party in your dorm and everyone lives in the same hall and go through 4 half kegs. At what other time in your life can you find people who are willing to play tennis with you all day and not go to jobs, and other responsibilities.

My experience has been that all the people who are involved on campus and in all the clubs, the people 'The-J' describes a going somewhere, they get shit done. Once you start hanging out with them more you realize they party just as much if not more than others. Most of them spend more time on extracurricular and social activities than they do on classes. There is a beneft they know all the best teachers to take, and all the teachers like them. Teachers participate in these extracurricular events and activities. Every club needs teacher sponsor.

I'd don't think there is anyway to predict who is going to be successful and who is not, but I believe it takes a little longer than those first couple months of meeting someone. I'm not sure where your at in college, but I'd advise meet as many people as possible. Don't bash your friends, some people start out as wantreprenuers but that is because they don't know where to start. There going to be in all the entrepreneurial clubs and events and they'll probably learn and meet new people.

I have a perfect example of how people leech and want the money without the work like you described some of your friends. Me and my brother spent a lot of time on Christmas break buying up used text books for a certain class on Amazon, and marking them up and selling them outside the classroom. He emailed every student in the class and figured out how many he could sell. I dropped him off down at school and distributed the books for him outside the class because he had class. I'm in the dorms with him later that day and all the other guys, are telling him next time he does it let them know and they'll be partners and invest money. Guess what my brother paid 5 dollars for each book max, you think he needs their help and their capital. He just smiled and said maybe next time. He was thinking the same thing as me; each one of his friends new exactly what he did and how he did it and how much he made, yet not one of them got the idea, wait I'll do this myself next semester. My brother chose one class with about 500 students in a school of 20,000, we scoped it out for the next semester and found multiple classes just like it where with the same profit potential. Like MJ always says people like the event not the process.

My theory is the only way to figure out who are going to be successful is those already following fast lane plans, it doesn't mean others won't start following them in the future. Can you compare the most extremely successful slowlaner to a moderately successful fastlaner. Can some of the more experience members chimed in who have followed the fastlane, what have you found to be the most telling characteristic of who will be successful?