Thread: Entrepreneurs Are Born

Nor should we convert everybody to entrepreneurship. If everybody was an entrepreneur, nobody would be.

Originally Posted by Leary

Nor should we convert everybody to entrepreneurship. If everybody was an entrepreneur, nobody would be.

Yeah, that can't and won't ever happen though. Not everyone wants to be an entrepreneur, and not everyone is fit to be one.

I always know I had something wrong with me lol

Originally Posted by Rickson9

"...but we need to stop spending time and resources believing that everyone needs to be—or even can be—converted to the church of entrepreneurship."

Entrepreneurs are Born

I still can't figure out why our society feels the need to do this. Is it motivated by the possibility of great wealth? If so--by using Rich Dad's Cashflow Quadrant to illustrate--not everyone needs to move to the "B" or "S" quadrants. Moving to (or adding yourself to) the "I" quadrant is sufficient.

I agree that not everyone should be an entrepreneur. A lot of people just want to be employees. But I think the employee mindset is settling to much in America. Our country was founded on principles that the people should be owners (shopkeepers, farmers, cobblers) and that is why our country became free. When most of the people are employees, they get a victim mindset and the freedom vanishes.

I think that most entrepreneurs share important personality traits, so in that way, there are born entrepreneurs. But I think that there are two types of entrepreneurs: those entrepreneurs who, like Tony Hsieh, began hustling out of their cribs, and then those entrepreneurs whose brains are like kindle but who need a spark to start burning with a passion for entrepreneurialism.

Originally Posted by Trevor Kuntz

But I think that there are two types of entrepreneurs: those entrepreneurs who, like Tony Hsieh, began hustling out of their cribs, and then those entrepreneurs whose brains are like kindle but who need a spark to start burning with a passion for entrepreneurialism.

I'm the latter. What about you all?

I am certainly the latter as well.

I think I am the former. I've been doing things to earn money for a while now.

Originally Posted by Jacob Scholes

I think I am the former. I've been doing things to earn money for a while now.

Yes, I wish that I had had your mindset at age 15. I feel behind the curve starting at 20!

I have to agree. Even before I became an entrepreneur, I was an entrepreneur selling weed to make a buck as a kid.

I think this article depicts one type of entrepreneur. The other one that I see that generally is also very successful is what I would call "control-oriented" types, they value their sovereignty and right to live their lives on their terms as sacred, they value and hold sacred freedom and time. They are not big on submitting to authority, they refused to be "owned", it is an internal need for independence that drives them, not a 'hypomania" big idea type of thing. I think this second type is also born, but it doesn't mean you were selling from the crib. You may have gone the corporate route for a while, but in the end you just couldn't handle one more moment of being someone's bitch. You just chafe being under the thumb of other people and the need to be free is worth the risk of failure, at least you rise and fall on your own ability and merits. I think it is an independence thing more than anything else.

In Russia, due to lack of opportunities/money/too many people competing there are those who are talented that still work for others and hustle (marginally) on a side. They can't make it big, and not because they aren't working hard enough. In America you have the freedom to make yourself into ANYTHING you want to be, within reason. To not take this opportunity if you truly want to, is to be doing yourself a disservice. I'm not sure if Entrepreneurship is meant as in building systems and not just hustling, but there is no reason to not try something on a side just to see what happens.

Originally Posted by BeingChewsie

I think this article depicts one type of entrepreneur. The other one that I see that generally is also very successful is what I would call "control-oriented" types, they value their sovereignty and right to live their lives on their terms as sacred, they value and hold sacred freedom and time. They are not big on submitting to authority, they refused to be "owned", it is an internal need for independence that drives them, not a 'hypomania" big idea type of thing. I think this second type is also born, but it doesn't mean you were selling from the crib. You may have gone the corporate route for a while, but in the end you just couldn't handle one more moment of being someone's bitch. You just chafe being under the thumb of other people and the need to be free is worth the risk failure, at least you rise and fall on your own ability and merits. I think it is an independence thing more than anything else.

I think this statement encompasses the idea of at least Fastlane-style entrepreneurship beautifully. I identify with everything described here, BeingChewsie. I'm sure many others do, too.

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

I'm the latter. What about you all?

I started selling Christmas cards door to door when I was 7 years old so yea I would say the former for me lol

Originally Posted by PatrickP

I started selling Christmas cards door to door when I was 7 years old so yea I would say the former for me lol

What are you selling now, if I might ask?

Originally Posted by Trevor Kuntz

What are you selling now, if I might ask?

My own line of health supplements.

BUTtttttttttt between that door to door selling their were many years of dead end jobs, failed businesses and bad decisions.

Fortunately I was able to come out the other end on a high note with this current business that has far exceeded anything I thought was going to happen. It is from LOTS of luck, part dumb determination and lots of long long hours of hard work.

Your own line? Did you have to get FDA approval or is it something else?

Well that's great that it's working out for you!