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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasha View Post
    Considering you just wrote a short expose essentially justifying theft/piracy, something tells me you weren't totally misunderstood earlier.

    I mean, ethics aside, there's something to be learned from piracy right?
    Absolutely. I dont think that everything is necessarily black and white.
    I like to question things, instead of taking what i'm told for granted whether it be "piracy is bad" or "a good college degree will land you a good job".

    Infact, youve reminded me of an excellent essay (one of many) by Paul Graham, a definite fastlaner, about thinking outside the box, thinking for yourself, questioning authority and cultural taboos etc.

    What You Can't Say

    EDIT: Infact he does have a few things to say about piracy

    "[2] Copyright owners tend to focus on the aspect they see of piracy, which is the lost revenue. They therefore think what drives users to do it is the desire to get something for free. But iTunes shows that people will pay for stuff online, if you make it easy. A significant component of piracy is simply that it offers a better user experience." - http://www.paulgraham.com/convergence.html

    He has a lot of valid points worth thinking about if open-minded enough to consider alternative viewpoints. Im sure Graham can articulate them better than I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by townhaus View Post
    Im on the fence about the issue, but can see the good side aswell as the bad. Either way its a reality and its not going to go away.
    so i wasnt justifying it. Also stated I was firmly against scamming people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasha View Post
    Helpful as it may be to some, I don't think you should recommend sites that contain pirated info. What if MJ's book was on there?... Should he not get paid for his work?

    If someone wants to get something for free, and the owner isn't giving it away, let them figure out how to get it on their own.

    Agreed 100%. MJ worked hard on his book as have many others. It is outright stealing to get it for free. Same as if you walked into a book shop and put a book under your shirt and walked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrickP View Post
    It is outright stealing to get it for free. Same as if you walked into a book shop and put a book under your shirt and walked out.
    Thats a fallicy and not true.
    Fact is, its sharing, not stealing. More akin to lending your copy to your wife or to a friend.
    If someone downloaded a pdf, they havnt created scarcity, i.e. there isnt one less pdf out there.

    Im not defending the action- just expressing the truth of the matter.

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    "Real property is tangible and limited in supply. Intellectual property is formless and unlimited in supply. According to Mark Lemley, a Stanford Law School copyright expert, copyright infringement is not the same kind of theft as the physical taking of a CD from a store. He also states that "if I take your physical property, I have it and you no longer do. If I copy your song, I have it, but so do you." Lemley suggests that the music industry's use of metaphors have backfired. However, he says copyright infringement is wrong and should be punished. But, simplistic statements of it being just like stealing a CD are wrong and counterproductive because even though people know it is wrong they are likely to ignore this fact (Healey, 2008). The use of metaphors in the debate over downloading music provides a tipping point for either side."- http://voices.yahoo.com/is-file-shar...s-1441563.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by townhaus View Post
    Apart from great startup advice he can be an admirable bearer of inconvenient truths on a philosophical level as well. As a voluntarist I deal with this "kill the messenger" irrationality on a daily basis.
    They do what they do because everyone else, they see, is doing it too. The American hunting tribes, for example, whose organization so puzzled our observers, never formed a State, for there is no way to reduce a hunter to economic dependence and make him hunt for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brander View Post
    Apart from great startup advice he can be an admirable bearer of inconvenient truths on a philosophical level as well. As a voluntarist I deal with this "kill the messenger" irrationality on a daily basis.
    100% Agree. Paul Graham has some great essays. Nice avatar btw, probably missing a dollar (bicoin?) sign though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by townhaus View Post
    probably missing a dollar (bicoin?) sign though!
    Money Schmoney. As long as I am alive and reasonably healthy, all other things are a bonus
    They do what they do because everyone else, they see, is doing it too. The American hunting tribes, for example, whose organization so puzzled our observers, never formed a State, for there is no way to reduce a hunter to economic dependence and make him hunt for you.

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