Thread: Opening a can of worms

Not enough information. If you can't sell and get a customer to pay you, it doesn't matter what your idea is.

If this was Warren Buffet or Bill Gates or Jenna Jameson then I might take it seriously, but if this is some average Joe then no. And anyone with less than 100 million is an average joe to me.

Originally Posted by Lights

If this was Warren Buffet or Bill Gates or Jenna Jameson then I might take it seriously, but if this is some average Joe then no. And anyone with less than 100 million is an average joe to me.

This has the implication that you don't have the capacity to relate to the average person.

Originally Posted by TheArtist610

That you might be on to something or that the idea isn't worth pursuing?

Sounds like you might be on to something. The owner feels threatened, hence the hostility.

I would definately pursue your idea. Maybe even on a temporary basis. You have the right to do any kind of business you want to do as long as there is not a signed contract between you and this other person prohibiting such a business. Good luck and please keep us updated.

What did you expect his reaction to be?
Business owner: What.... you have this idea and it's going to make me lose my customers, sounds great!
Did you ask him why he felt you were opening a can of worms?

Good open probe.

Haha, I don't know if I'd tell a business owner a way you've discovered that could potentially put him out of business or lose sales. How do you think he's going to feel? I second MJs comment.

Originally Posted by Rickson9

This has the implication that you don't have the capacity to relate to the average person.

Well not necessarily, you have to be extremely different to relate to me...

but almost anyone can be my friend in their heads.

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wealth doesn't make you relate to me either, but I don't take anyone serious unless they are a master at it (no being born with it doesn't count)

Originally Posted by Lights

Well not necessarily, you have to be extremely different to relate to me...

but almost anyone can be my friend in their heads.

Actually I wasn't talking about other people relating to you. I said that your post has the implication that you don't have the capacity to relate to the average person.

It's not good or bad, it just is.

Originally Posted by Rickson9

Actually I wasn't talking about other people relating to you. I said that your post has the implication that you don't have the capacity to relate to the average person.

It's not good or bad, it just is.

I guess.

Who is the average person these days?

Originally Posted by Rickson9

Actually I wasn't talking about other people relating to you. I said that your post has the implication that you don't have the capacity to relate to the average person.

It's not good or bad, it just is.

She has the attitude of a spoiled rich brat even though she isn't one. She's poor herself and yet she constantly insults poor and middle class people. Remember that thread where she was insulting her co-workers at the factory that she works at? She called them idiots for working there even though she was working there as well. She would have insulted someone like MJ back when he was driving limos and doing other crappy jobs even though he was working on his fastlane plans at the same time.

But, she wouldn't see that because all she sees are the superficial aspects of a person. Ultimately, having a fastlane mindset doesn't make you a better person, it just makes you more likely to become wealthy than someone with a slowlane mindset. At the end of the day, everyone deserves to be treated with basic human dignity and respect.

Originally Posted by Darkside

She has the attitude of a spoiled rich brat even though she isn't one. She's poor herself and yet she constantly insults poor and middle class people. Remember that thread where she was insulting her co-workers at the factory that she works at? She called them idiots for working there even though she was working there as well. She would have insulted someone like MJ back when he was driving limos and doing other crappy jobs even though he was working on his fastlane plans at the same time.

But, she wouldn't see that because all she sees are the superficial aspects of a person. Ultimately, having a fastlane mindset doesn't make you a better person, it just makes you more likely to become wealthy than someone with a slowlane mindset. At the end of the day, everyone deserves to be treated with basic human dignity and respect.

I worked there for 2 weeks, and then went homeless, and then... well you know how I am living these days. Thanks for keeping up with my life. Oh, that job was horrid.... no way am I going to do that again. 12 hr shifts on the slow lane is so retarded. Then I saw people slaving away their youth, and I know people were just wasting their life with no future ahead of them. Most of them, since they were 28 and above, and they probably had kids to keep them chain to their lives.

I am a multi-dimensional being, and I give my respect to the ones who deserve it. I don't give my respect to anyone, since if I were to do that then that is saying everyone is equal which is not true. You have to earn my respect, but I'll be casual friendly to you. Heck, if were to meet in real life this would be the conversation..

an example of one, from a few days ago. It was to some guy doing bottle rooms.

"Hi, how are you! I totally love your outfit, and isn't it nice day today?" (me)
"Oh, thanks, it's nice day"
"You're welcome, so what school you went too?" (me)
"I didn't went to college, and how about you?"
"OH i go to ---- and I'm in premed, so it's a long process" (me)
"Yeah I wish I went to college... hard to get a job"
"Any legal job that is that makes a lot of money, but that's life. The man keeps us down! But all seriously, I love this place so far. A lot of friendly people here!" (me)
"Hehehehe. I did a lot of under the table jobs"
"Oh really? Yeah, there's a few out there, I would do the oldest one if it was legal" (me)
"oh i could be a good prostitute, and i'll get a lot of money hehehe" (this was from a fat guy)
"Yeah, I got to go back now, talk to you later!!", (totally bored now of this conversation)

I'm a superficial person though, and I glorify in it, since I realize that no one loves you in this world except yourself. I don't listen to society and think, "OH i'm superficial... i'm a horrible person", since poor is the man who needs permission to be herself or himself.

I accept most people, and the freaks. I am the only person who will kiss obese ugly men, and really truly enjoy it. How I behave is not how I think. And most people think I'm awesome. So I'm narcissistic, but have more insecurities than most people. Live your life though.

I think my personality will be the most engaging character on the cinema. You know how many people will read a book about a person like me? I have only 132 posts, but everyone on this forum is keeping up with me like I was a living soap opera.

Originally Posted by Lights

I guess.

Who is the average person these days?

Apparently anyone with less than $100M as you mentioned above?

Nothing wrong about being superficial, most people are. It's a common trait.

I had a similar conversation (well, similar based on the few details you mentioned). Basically, I showed the owner a new market and how things would change for his business. 38+ years experience, well established company but not a household name (they sell B2B).

He was not totally surprised. But probably never heard about it from this different perspective. And he saw the threat. And the opportunity.

His 'offer' to me? "Would you like to be the authorized re-seller for our products/services for that new market?"

If you think about it, his answer was very clever. Instead of taking offense, or just being concerned, he decided to tap others to work for/with him on that new market.

Is that something that would work for you in your case?

Again, it is hard to get a good idea of potential and provide decent advice without more details about the type of product/service.

In the case I talked about, his company would provide the products and services, my role would be the sales and marketing for a new, different market.

In your case, why would you need him? Why would he need you? Is there an opportunity for both parties to get something positive out of it? --again, the most important thing to understand about my advice is, I'm flying blind... I can only assume you talking to him cause you wanted something from him... $$ for your services to implement your idea? financial backing in exchange for a % of ownership? what is it? Why talking to him if not because you want something out of him? why alert your competition?

So, going back to it... his comment makes me believe you are showing him something so different and threatening, something so disrutpvie that it would be like a can of worms...

Sounds like your idea taps into a problem and provides a different solution... Can you implement it on your own?

Originally Posted by Lights

I didn't went to college

That was too funny. I think I peed myself a little bit when I read that.

Originally Posted by kurtyordy

That was too funny. I think I peed myself a little bit when I read that.

I was going to quote that with the following comment as a response:


"I think that's fairly obvious"


But, I decided it wasn't worth the trouble since insults seem to just role off of her.

Originally Posted by kurtyordy

That was too funny. I think I peed myself a little bit when I read that.

That's what he said.

I said I'm going into premed... and it's a long process. Should had put in, "he said", "I said" after each statement.