Get Updates (It's FREE)

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 44

Thread: So I took pity on this guy and tried to help him.

  1. #1
    NHS
    NHS is offline
    (9) Cadillac
    Joined
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    153
    Thanks
    8
    Thx'd 63 times in 40 Posts

    Default So I took pity on this guy and tried to help him.

    On another forum I go to they were talking about walmart and the topic turned to why would you buy that stuff.

    I said I don't allow that kind of stuff in my home.

    So the guy replies back, well we are not all in the top 1%, I'm losing my house, I'm losing my car, I cannot afford to feed my family.

    So yeah he tried to insult me but I took pity on the guy and gave him not just advice. I laid down step by step one of my ideas that I currently do on a weekly basis and cost me less then $100 to do and brings in close to 2k a month. I mean I put it down word for word. "Here is how you can help your family and get yourself out of the hole. It's not alot of money but 300-600 a week sure will help alot."

    I mean literally laid it out down, how to buy, were, when, where to sell, links to everything. To me it was like passing on one of my great ideas to someone I thought could really use it.

    So what does this self pity piece of shit do? Fucking laughs at me! I seriously could not believe it. How brain damaged do you have to be. I gave this guy IMO a $25k a year idea for free, laid out and he laughs at it.

    Needless to say I deleted the entire post and told him good luck. He just lost 25k a year and to remember that when he is out on the street.

  2. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to NHS For This Useful Post:

    ashj1893 (Nov 16th, 2011), sambreaker20 (Apr 4th, 2011), wado1 (Jan 1st, 2012)

  3. #2
    (9) Cadillac
    Joined
    Dec 2010
    Locale
    South Dakota
    Posts
    166
    Thanks
    9
    Thx'd 38 times in 31 Posts

    Default

    You can lead a horse to water...
    "A good plan violently executed right now is far better than a perfect plan executed next week." -- George S. Patton

  4. #3
    ZCP
    ZCP is offline
    (11) Honda ZCP's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2010
    Locale
    Woodstock, GA
    Posts
    82
    Thanks
    17
    Thx'd 38 times in 25 Posts

    Default

    Humorously, if you had put it on a website and charged him money for it, he would defend your name and be your disciple until the day he died. Then he would have tried to sell his friends on it.........hmmmmmm

    Back on topic, the last to take a handout are often the neediest.

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to ZCP For This Useful Post:

    TaxGuy (Sep 10th, 2011)

  6. #4
    (5) Porsche Bozigian's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2010
    Age
    19
    Posts
    564
    Thanks
    56
    Thx'd 97 times in 74 Posts

    Default

    I guess it is pyscology what ZCP said. you can give the information for free and people will not pay attention to it. Or you can give the information for a set price and people will use the method that you sold to them.

    Thats why people like us succeed. And others, who onced laugh at an oppurtunity to regain their lives back, now suffer debt and financial issues.

  7. #5
    (6) Mercedes maximus20895's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2009
    Locale
    Knoxville,TN
    Age
    23
    Posts
    546
    Thanks
    42
    Thx'd 85 times in 73 Posts

    Default

    This is also one reason he is in the position he is in. His mindset is faulty which leads to not taking your advice seriously. Even if he did, I doubt that he would take action and follow through the the plan you laid out.

  8. #6
    (4) Ferrari Rickson9's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2010
    Locale
    Canada
    Posts
    1,039
    Thanks
    736
    Thx'd 759 times in 402 Posts

    Default

    In sales one learns to recognize when an individual is ready to be sold. To proceed with the selling process without first achieving these milestones has always turned out poorly for me.

    Selling from a position of pity has never worked well for me either.

    Best regards.
    Visit http://www.ticonline.com now and read about how I became a millionaire shortly after 30 and how you can too!

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to Rickson9 For This Useful Post:

    topherea (Jan 31st, 2011)

  10. #7
    Chillaxin
    Joined
    Jul 2007
    Locale
    Phoenix, AZ
    Posts
    9,580
    Thanks
    2,500
    Thx'd 4,554 times in 2,068 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NHS View Post
    I'm losing my house, I'm losing my car, I cannot afford to feed my family.
    What a perfect set of circumstances to be laughing and not taking advice. Obviously what he is doing works fabulously ... the guy is a genius.

  11. The Following User Says Thank You to MJDeMarco For This Useful Post:

    Kak (Feb 1st, 2011)

  12. #8
    (11) Honda 1mancrew's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2009
    Locale
    Lake Worth
    Age
    49
    Posts
    97
    Thanks
    100
    Thx'd 41 times in 33 Posts

    Default

    Hold your head high as you did the right thing, not your fault he is not ready.

  13. #9
    NHS
    NHS is offline
    (9) Cadillac
    Joined
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    153
    Thanks
    8
    Thx'd 63 times in 40 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by maximus20895 View Post
    This is also one reason he is in the position he is in. His mindset is faulty which leads to not taking your advice seriously. Even if he did, I doubt that he would take action and follow through the the plan you laid out.
    Well thats what I am finding out is I can share my ideas with others and 99% will never even try. All my friends and family know how I make money and never try. Just a different way of thinking I guess.

  14. #10
    (6) Mercedes maximus20895's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2009
    Locale
    Knoxville,TN
    Age
    23
    Posts
    546
    Thanks
    42
    Thx'd 85 times in 73 Posts

    Default

    Totally different. Entrepreneurship is not just about having a plan and taking action. It really starts with your mind.

  15. #11
    (5) Porsche
    Joined
    Apr 2010
    Locale
    Canada
    Age
    26
    Posts
    711
    Thanks
    72
    Thx'd 179 times in 138 Posts
    Blog Entries
    13

    Default

    Sounds to me like he was in a fighting mood. You could have said anything and not have gotten a good response. There's no point in dealing with people in that mindset, because they will take anything as an insult and deliberately act in a way to spit in your face. I'll bet if you offered him a cheque for a grand, he would have spat at that, too.

    Good job on reaching out though. I hope it doesn't make you jaded, just maybe shows that the only people worth your efforts are those who gladly receive them.
    Automation is important. This is an automated disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, all advice is opinion, and I will not be held accountable for other peoples stupidity.

  16. #12
    (5) Porsche JayKim's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2008
    Locale
    Colorado Springs
    Age
    32
    Posts
    678
    Thanks
    1,637
    Thx'd 212 times in 145 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NHS View Post
    I laid down step by step one of my ideas that I currently do on a weekly basis and cost me less then $100 to do and brings in close to 2k a month.
    Waste of a legendary thread. I know some of the fastlaners could have used it. I know I could.

  17. #13
    (5) Porsche
    Joined
    Apr 2010
    Locale
    Canada
    Age
    26
    Posts
    711
    Thanks
    72
    Thx'd 179 times in 138 Posts
    Blog Entries
    13

    Default

    Oh, but it does reiterate one very important point. You don't have to covet your ideas quite as closely as you think. Most people won't bother executing them. (Though I'm not sure if giving a perfect step by step really counts as simply sharing an idea, as it's giving the whole process..)
    Automation is important. This is an automated disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, all advice is opinion, and I will not be held accountable for other peoples stupidity.

  18. #14
    (12) Chevrolet
    Joined
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    55
    Thanks
    13
    Thx'd 59 times in 30 Posts

    Default

    Pride goeth before the fall.

  19. #15
    (10) Toyota John Rogers's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2010
    Locale
    Washington State, USA
    Age
    49
    Posts
    117
    Thanks
    50
    Thx'd 62 times in 40 Posts

    Default

    I can't begin to tell you how many people I have tried to help. Our company has even done a couple of fundraisers for people who needed immediate assistance. I can't think of more than one or two who used the help to get them any further along. They took care of their immediate need, but didn't change any of the behaviors that put them in the situation, and ended up right back where they started.

    I vaguely remember an old Tony Robbins analogy about a thermostat. The temperature setting on the thermostat represents a persons comfort zone. While the temperature may fluctuate or even spike, it always goes back to the comfort zone temperature.
    Do not wait; the time will never be "just right." Start where you stand, and work with whatever tools you may have at your command, and better tools will be found as you go along.
    - George Herbert

  20. #16
    Moderator andviv's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2007
    Locale
    Northern Virginia
    Posts
    4,323
    Thanks
    1,519
    Thx'd 817 times in 521 Posts

    Default

    I agree with the other posters.... although I take a different approach.

    Write up your idea as a PDF (e-book), put up a page, and start selling it for $7, getting your payments through paypal. Those that pay $7 are willing to look at it and give it a try. Those that don't won't make you waste your time.

    If somebody ever contacts you and asks you for a break in the price cause they are broke then you can decide if you want to send it to them for free.
    Palmera Tech -- Web Development Done Right!

    Building the pyramids must have sucked... unless you were the pharaoh.

  21. #17
    (5) Porsche NoMoneyDown's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2007
    Locale
    Round Rock, TX
    Posts
    577
    Thanks
    109
    Thx'd 148 times in 115 Posts

    Default

    I've tried to give free real estate advice to many people, and almost without fail, they would do the same thing (i.e., laugh and/or come up with 100 reasons why it wouldn't work). Unless I know for sure the person will take the free advice, I don't even bother any more.

    As others have said so eloquently, box the advice up and sell it.
    "Because when I am old, I don't want to say 'What could have been'." - Me

  22. The Following User Says Thank You to NoMoneyDown For This Useful Post:

    Kak (Feb 1st, 2011)

  23. #18
    (14) Hyundai
    Joined
    Feb 2011
    Locale
    Eugene Oregon
    Posts
    19
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NHS View Post
    On another forum I laid down step by step one of my ideas that I currently do on a weekly basis and cost me less then $100 to do and brings in close to 2k a month. I mean I put it down word for word. "Here is how you can help your family and get yourself out of the hole. It's not alot of money but 300-600 a week sure will help alot."
    Can you please post a link to the post?

  24. #19
    (12) Chevrolet
    Joined
    Feb 2008
    Locale
    Hawaii
    Posts
    45
    Thanks
    21
    Thx'd 11 times in 9 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NHS View Post
    I gave this guy IMO a $25k a year idea for free, laid out and he laughs at it.

    You never know: while the person in question may have ignored your advise, you may have inadvertently helped someone else reading your post implement your methods to get themselves out of a hole.

    As a few others have mentioned, I too would love to see a re-post of your idea(s,) publicly or via PM if you're so inclined.

  25. #20
    ZCP
    ZCP is offline
    (11) Honda ZCP's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2010
    Locale
    Woodstock, GA
    Posts
    82
    Thanks
    17
    Thx'd 38 times in 25 Posts

    Default

    I'll push you one step further.....I'll pay you $7 for your idea in a readable pdf or similar form. (your first paying customer)

    In return, you let me know one year from today what this post was worth.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Pity the Cold-Blooded Snake!
    By bflbob in forum Off-Topic Discussion
    Replies: 35
    Last Post: Feb 2nd, 2011, 06:58 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •