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    Default Christmas shopping for a total bum?

    Preface:
    So every family or circle of friends has got one. An absolute bum that hasn't worked in years. Who's unemployment has run out, and they replaced that source of income by latching onto and/or marrying someone to carry them. They spend each week basically laying on the couch, and Facebooking about how depressed they are -- and how they didn't sign up for this sad, sad life. They're in their mid 30's and life has just passed them by. Meanwhile they haven't made any attempt to better themself, haven't even tried to go to college or learn a trade, and just expects the world to be handed to them on a silver platter. Entitlement anyone?

    Question:
    If you were obligated to get this person a gift, what gift would it be? I see myself giving them a book on how to get a job, or how to write a resume -- which I know will come across pretty backhanded, but sheesh... Wake up and smell the coffee already! haha Your thoughts?
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    A warm sweater for when they are living on the streets?

    If you come up with a better idea, I'm looking for one for my brother ;-)
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    1. A Xanax prescription.

    2. 1st year: Tiny fridge built to be an end table (so they don't have to walk all the way to the kitchen for a beer)

    3. Next year, you can give them a matching end table w/microwave.

    4. Third year: See below

    (you can see, I've given this particular topic a LOT of thought . . .)

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    I was thinking of giving them MJ's book, but this person has never finished a book in their life -- So I think that would be an absolute waste.

    haha -- Although your suggestion seems spot on Russ, I'd hate to give them anything that would encourage them to continue living in this lifestyle that I don't endorse

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    Get him some new underwear...


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    Quote Originally Posted by hakrjak View Post
    . . . Although your suggestion seems spot on Russ, I'd hate to give them anything that would encourage them to continue living in this lifestyle that I don't endorse
    Yeah, but think of how thoughtful you'd be.

    Everyone else keeps telling them to get off their butt and get a job.

    And here you would be, saying, "Yo, bro, hat's off to you! Work is so overrated, and being productive? Pfa!"

    Get it?

    They'd be the first gifts that he'd enjoy (if he's truly a bum), or hate (if he actually doesn't acknowledge his bum-ness).

    Word of advice: NEVER do this for an in-law. It's against the rules, if you plan on staying married. Must be a blood relative.

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    Give them the gift of self awareness, give them MJ's book. I finally got mine, finished reading it and it was great. Kinda disappointed though, out of all the people on these forums that bought it theres only 11 comments/rating on amazon wth? at least they all gave it 5 stars, not that it deserves anything less.
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    I have an idea for you. Give him MJ's book but put a $20 bill in the middle of it. It might be worth it just to see if he is so lazy that he wont even open the book. If he doesnt it would be great verbal ammo for you at some later point.

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    What about an application to the local McDonald's? lol That's the best I can come up with at the moment. PS: Great Topic
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    How about a mentoring coupon? Try and help him get motivated in doing something. The cold season is coming; maybe he can start to get ready to have a small business shoveling sidewalks? Maybe you can help him build a website. If you can get him to do something to make him feel better about himself that might be enough to push him through these depressing times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ H View Post
    Yeah, but think of how thoughtful you'd be.

    Everyone else keeps telling them to get off their butt and get a job.

    And here you would be, saying, "Yo, bro, hat's off to you! Work is so overrated, and being productive? Pfa!"

    Get it?

    They'd be the first gifts that he'd enjoy (if he's truly a bum), or hate (if he actually doesn't acknowledge his bum-ness).

    Word of advice: NEVER do this for an in-law. It's against the rules, if you plan on staying married. Must be a blood relative.

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    Ok you have a good point haha

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    I guess I would think about the purpose of this "gift" (if you can call it a gift; sounds like a jab at this point).

    Best regards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickson9 View Post
    I guess I would think about the purpose of this "gift" (if you can call it a gift; sounds like a jab at this point).

    Best regards.
    Yeh that's kinda the point. It's hard to get a gift for someone that is so unlike you. I'm not going to get somebody a carton of Marlboro's, and a jug of hooch... haahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakrjak View Post
    Yeh that's kinda the point. It's hard to get a gift for someone that is so unlike you. I'm not going to get somebody a carton of Marlboro's, and a jug of hooch... haahaha

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    My question is, why do you feel obligated to get them anything?

    I realize that Christmas is the time for giving but it should not be because of an obligation. Give him/her your love and acceptance for who they are, not who you think they should be.

    I do like Russ' suggestion though.
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    I once gave one of my sisters "how to win friends and influence people".

    This sister had/has the most negative attitude about life and is truly painful to spend time with.

    She opened the package, took one look at the book then threw it at me and walked out the door.

    Apparently she wasn't interested in learning the lessons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalWealth View Post
    She opened the package, took one look at the book then threw it at me and walked out the door.
    Her actions speak volumes.

    And clearly, she knew how to influence people-- just not in a positive way.

    Isn't it amazing how people make their own misery?

    They whine and moan about how tough they have it. And they do their level best to shun anything that could help them get out of their ruts.
    Not for me, nope. Not for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ H View Post
    Her actions speak volumes.

    And clearly, she knew how to influence people-- just not in a positive way.

    Isn't it amazing how people make their own misery?

    They whine and moan about how tough they have it. And they do their level best to shun anything that could help them get out of their ruts.
    Not for me, nope. Not for me.

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    FYI, this sister has lived her whole life looking for the easy way out. She was injured in a car accident several years ago and now she is on government disability for the rest of her life. She gets food stamps too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kung Fu Steve View Post
    A warm sweater for when they are living on the streets?

    If you come up with a better idea, I'm looking for one for my brother ;-)
    Actually I just hired my brother. He was a dead beat for years but he really does want to change his life and I am happy to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHS View Post
    Actually I just hired my brother. He was a dead beat for years but he really does want to change his life and I am happy to help.
    Good luck. Hiring family ain't easy-- esp family that has had issues getting work.

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