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First Apartment Building Acquisition Done

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Shout out to G_Alexander, who inspired me both with mobile home investing and multi-family investing a few years back. On Friday, July 25th I closed on my first multi-family apartment building.

This property is precisely what I mentioned back in the STOP paying rent RE thread

https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/co...g-rent-live-for-free.51893/page-3#post-386141

It is a 4 unit home. Almost a motel-style one story on a concrete slab. Built in 1985. Roughly 3,300 sq ft.

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The building was not for sale initially. I contacted the owners and let them know I was willing to buy. Got the call about 3 days later and starting writing up the contract.

Out of the 4 units, 2 are completely remodeled. The other two are still in very livable conditions, especialy given the location (low-median income rural village about 1 hour from both Buffalo and Rochester, NY). No damage, jut outdated.

Unit 1 - 2 Beds, 1 Bath
Unit 2 – 2 Beds, 1 Bath
Unit 3 – 1 Beds, 1 Bath
Unit 4 – 2 Beds, 1 Bath


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They all came with the appliances and there is community laundry room.

I went into this deal initially thinking 3.5% FHA would suffice. However, because it was a 4 unit, I had to put 10% down. I barely made through the approval. Put 10% down under FHA lending and locked in a 3.75% 30-year mortgage. Affadavit states I need to live at the property for one year.

Deal Details
Cost summary:
$1,000 earnest money
~$23,000 due at closing

Capital Improvements:
No initial capital improvements necessary. The two units that are outdated have had the same tenants occupying the property for 5+ years. (One tenant has been there for 14 years).

+Monthly Cash Inflow:
Unit 1 rent: $475 - (Tenant received discount for living 10+ years, I am okay with honoring)
Unit 2 rent: $400 – ($500 per month -$100 discount for full property maintenance)*
Unit 3 rent: $500 – (New tenant just moved in 08/01)
Unit 4 rent: $0 - (Owner occupied. Also the best unit, being 2 bed and fully renovated- will be $550)
Laundry: Currently Free
Total:$1375while honoring the contract and living in the unit
Total: $1925 once it becomes non-owner occupied

*If I’m only staying for one year, I feel like I might as well accept this discount for the time being, and then he can continue to maintain the property once it becomes non-owner occupied

Once new tenants move in and discounts are taken off, I’m looking at $2050 in monthly revenue without any renovations

Mortgage, Taxes, Insurance: $972.86
Gas for unit 4 and laundry: ~$100.00
Water: ~$70.00
1142.85
Monthly Cash Flow:$232.15
Monthly Cash Flow after one year: ~$850.00

Short term: Live at my unit until it is legally permissible to leave, and fully maximize rental income

Mid: Tear up the rugs and put in new floors for the two units not renovated, charge $550/month minimum for all units which would take me to over $1,000 profit per month.

Long term goal: Acquire more properties. I’m thinking maybe a duplex in WNY. I would also like to expand my knowledge on real estate syndication. I interned at a commercial appraisal firm while working full-time and learned all about market research for enormous apartment buildings, where to find the resources online, who to call, what to study, etc. It was definitely a value-added experience.

-Joe
 
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Hey Joe,

Great post and kudos for taking action!

Just curious, how / why did this property stand out to you? Had you looked at others before this?

-JB
 
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Hey Joe,

Great post and kudos for taking action!

Just curious, how / why did this property stand out to you? Had you looked at others before this?

-JB

Thanks for the reply!

Why it stood out
1. It was a property that is newly built and all major upgrades will be good for 15+ years assuming all goes well
2. It was affordable because of the area. My loan for the property is about $104k. I wouldn't have been able to afford a 4 unit in this condition anywhere else
3. I know that it is one of two total multi unity properties in the area, and there is plenty of people looking to rent in the area. The other property is in rough condition.
4. My father lives two houses down, and will be able to handle all other maintenance for cheap. He will also be able to renovate when the time comes and I won't have to pay a contractor. It will be very low cost.
5. When new tenants move in and there is no concessions or discounts, a 50% vacancy would still pay off the mortgage.

Thanks,
-Joe
 
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Congrats man! Im currently reserching REI and i plan on taking a path similar to this. Did you have to put $24000 of your own money down or $1000 earnest only? I guess theres no way for you to "room swap" and live in the 1 bed 1 bath and charge the renter more? Personally i would bite the bullet to pocket the extra $25-$75/month. Where i live housing is expensive, im saving up for my first income property currently.

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Congrats man! Im currently reserching REI and i plan on taking a path similar to this. Did you have to put $24000 of your own money down or $1000 earnest only? I guess theres no way for you to "room swap" and live in the 1 bed 1 bath and charge the renter more? Personally i would bite the bullet to pocket the extra $25-$75/month. Where i live housing is expensive, im saving up for my first income property currently.

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Thanks!

I had to put down 10% so all of it. It was a bit extreme but it will pay off eventually. I remember thinking it might be too much money, and after revisiting G_Alexanders thread and him mentioning he would spend roughly 20k remodeling the basement, I moved forward with the downpayment knowing that I won't have to spend nearly as much for a very long time on the property.

This was a conservative buy, and only when I feel comfortable and knowledgeable enough of the business will I go for properties that are essentially cheaper. Buffalo NY has great market for depressed properties that students will gladly live in. My old landlord has 60+ properties and they would pay themselves off in 3 years in the college areas. I hope to get there soon enough!

And your absolutely right. I could move into the 1 bedroom. However, seeing as how I'm not currently fully maximizing the property yet and I'm already required to live there, I would rather take the nicest unit. Just a personal choice.

Thanks,
-Joe
 

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I'll be following your journey, I'd like to start doing the same once our student loans are taken care of. Looks like a pretty good buy to me!
 
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I'll be following your journey, I'd like to start doing the same once our student loans are taken care of. Looks like a pretty good buy to me!

Yeah my student loans were definitely taken into consideration when contemplating the purchase. Luckily, I'm only ~25k in debt. I can afford both at this point.

Appreciate the post!
-Joe
 
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So how would you go about financing this if you could not have gotten the loan? Just putting out scenarios. Also can you go more in depth about your approach to the owners of the unit before? Was there a need for them to sell or just convenience?
 

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The building was not for sale initially. I contacted the owners and let them know I was willing to buy. Got the call about 3 days later and starting writing up the contract.

Very interesting. What strategy did you pursue exactly to end up with a building that wasn't for sale? You sent out a bunch of letters to the owners of all nearby properties that looked interesting and this is the one that responded - or you just got lucky on your first try - or you worked on one that was your dream building and made a valiant effort to convince them?
 

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Awesome thread! Very nice units! Why couldn't you do the DP at 3.5% FHA? I thought 3.5% was allowed on multi-units too.
 
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Mortgage, Taxes, Insurance: $972.86
Gas for unit 4 and laundry: ~$100.00
Water: ~$70.00
1142.85
Monthly Cash Flow:$232.15

BOOM! Congrats @joefazzolari . Way to take action. Way to live for free. Whatever you do for the rest of your life, you will have a safe-house and leverageable asset to go back to if all else fails.

Love seeing this. Rep++
 

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Congratulations!!

The best deals are always the ones which are not advertised, no "for sale" sign in the front, not listed.

Good job contacting the owners even though it was not advertised for sale. That is how you beat the competition to the BEST opportunities.

Next time try to negotiate seller financing. I bet the sellers would love to get the 10% down and 3.75% interest. They sure can't earn that kind of interest in any bank in the USA. Even if you pay a little more, it is worth it to buy with seller financing because you can avoid all the loan fees.

Keep up the great work.
 
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Congratulations!!

The best deals are always the ones which are not advertised, no "for sale" sign in the front, not listed.

Good job contacting the owners even though it was not advertised for sale. That is how you beat the competition to the BEST opportunities.

Next time try to negotiate seller financing. I bet the sellers would love to get the 10% down and 3.75% interest. They sure can't earn that kind of interest in any bank in the USA. Even if you pay a little more, it is worth it to buy with seller financing because you can avoid all the loan fees.

Keep up the great work.

Are there any big disadvantages to doing seller financing?
 
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Good job bro.

Just looking at those numbers and thinking to myself...damn real estate here in Canada is expensive right now lol.

Seriously.

$230k for a 4-plex? I can't even get a rat infested 1 room condo/shack in the shady part of China Town for that price.

I'm going to be looking into hooking up with some American investors, because it's not feasible here.
 
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Seriously.

$230k for a 4-plex? I can't even get a rat infested 1 room condo/shack in the shady part of China Town for that price.

I'm going to be looking into hooking up with some American investors, because it's not feasible here.

Wish you the best! Much of my 10% downpayment had closing cost, attorney fees, and I paid for the sellers fees as well as part of the agreement. I actually acquired the property for $125,000 :smoking:
 

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Thanks! It was mainly life savings... and during my four years in college I was doing offline CPA banner advertising

Thanks,
-Joe

Nice, I'm not sure how it works in the USA, but how long will it be before you can take out another mortgage? I am almost in the same position to buy a rental property, but unsure of how it would affect any future mortgage applications I apply for.
 
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Congrats on this. Taking action is key. One day, I'll join the "live for free" club too. :)
 
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@joefazzolari It's been several years. Any updates with this property?
 

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