Critique my NEW sales page

[GuestUser116]

Page is still slow as fuark.

Your server seems extremely slow and images a way too big.

Here's proof that I'm not talking out of my a$$. Thats my site. Its a Magento store, so takes a hell of a lot of resources. Its currently not even on an optimal server setup, which is why the database connection (the yellow "wait") currently takes too long for my standards. But I think the rest of the load times speak volumes... it even has ssl on top...

Site is fully loaded while in the same time your server hasnt even connected...

I cant say it enough, use cloudflare!

I tried cloudflare earlier and my site didn't work after changing the nameservers.

 

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[GuestUser116]

New campaign is killing it!

 

[Durete]

So now I'm interested about your new numbers.
You where making an average of $1 a day before following the sites that I checked,
How has your income improved after all the changes you made?

 

[Mr.B]

I tried cloudflare earlier and my site didn't work after changing the nameservers.

Did you wait for the DNS to propagate? Typically takes 24 to 48 hours. You can use this site to check: https://www.whatsmydns.net/

 

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[GuestUser116]

You where making an average of $1 a day before following the sites that I checked

Where'd you get that?

Did you wait for the DNS to propagate? Typically takes 24 to 48 hours. You can use this site to check: https://www.whatsmydns.net/

Ye after 24-48 hours is when it stopped working.

 

[Durete]

Where'd you get that?

Ye after 24-48 hours is when it stopped working.

That was just a general report that several sites dished out with your old sales page. They could, or could not be accurate.
Still wondering what your changes and improvements on your site brought to you in numbers though

Like did you see the results of your changes, or not (yet), is your idea showing any signs of becoming profitable.
Etc etc etc

 

[GuestUser116]

That was just a general report that several sites dished out with your old sales page. They could, or could not be accurate.
Still wondering what your changes and improvements on your site brought to you in numbers though

Like did you see the results of your changes, or not (yet), is your idea showing any signs of becoming profitable.
Etc etc etc

Just made a few sales. They ain't even from advertising tho haha; from the Warrior Forum.

 

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[teabag]

Just made a few sales. They ain't even from advertising tho haha; from the Warrior Forum.

Very surprised anyone from the warrior forum would buy what your offering, especially when useful information is available free from there and even bodybuilding.com from highly credited athletes and trainers.

Again, I'm in full support of you doing this, but your sales pitch is horrendous. Your after photos look like what I looked like when I was 16 and playing rugby 2 times a week for club sport.

Also you asked me about Mike Chang. Well, basically... he sells bro-science to thousands and thousands of people looking for the short cut to getting the body they want.

Surprise? His youtube account is called 'Six Pack Shortcuts'.

There are no short cuts. Eat right, exercise right, sleep right.

In saying all this, if you are making sales, good for you. But I don't think it will last long. There isn't enough value, when I can type into google 'calisthenic workout' and I'll have hundreds of youtube videos and websites offering all this for free, from people who have trained for a long time.

 

[Gabriel]

Just made a few sales. They ain't even from advertising tho haha; from the Warrior Forum.

Mostly what @teabag said, I think 20 dollars it's just to much, if you have enough time you can get some serious and good understanding from bodybuilding.com I think you have to make you sales page way cleaner, and also make youtube videos or something! The thing is. Why would I buy for you? I would prefer investing that money on Candito's program, Victor Pride book or some other high reputated youtuber! This could work some years a go but not now!

I guess you need to make a little twist somehow!

 

[Digamma]

In saying all this, if you are making sales, good for you. But I don't think it will last long. There isn't enough value, when I can type into google 'calisthenic workout' and I'll have hundreds of youtube videos and websites offering all this for free, from people who have trained for a long time.

Which can be said for every infoproduct offer in the world.

Why would I buy for you? I would prefer investing that money on Candito's program, Victor Pride book or some other high reputated youtuber! This could work some years a go but not now!

Ah! Talk about irony.

 

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[Gabriel]

Which can be said for every infoproduct offer in the world.

Ah! Talk about irony.

Hey he has a really good reputation, and the book isn't that bad! I mean, I would get starting strength, or candito's program before that book, but it's not that bad.

 

[Durete]

In saying all this, if you are making sales, good for you. But I don't think it will last long. There isn't enough value, when I can type into google 'calisthenic workout' and I'll have hundreds of youtube videos and websites offering all this for free, from people who have trained for a long time.

Just to his defense and out of my own curiosity:
Any program can be found for free.
Every program is pretty much a copy of the last, some programs such as P90x and Insanity are very popular for some reason, even while they are fairly low quality programs. So I'm just wondering to myself, what is their "Secret" in compared to all the other programs?(Whereof 90% are qualitative better than the p90x/insanity programs).

I see the following programs on the market:
- Rip off of other products (such as p90x/insanity)
- Combination of different type of systems
- "Innovative" programs that are often dangerous or just don't work (Some products sell total BS such as "Muscle confusion" which doesn't even exist. Others invent new movements which are just plain stupid and dangerous.)
- Shortcut products (Such as the 6 weeks abs.)

And that's it really.
It's hard to find a different angle, or something "New"
If you think of new or innovative training programs, I can only think of 1 trainer/entrepreneur in the fitness industry:
CST/Tacfit which pretty much takes moves from:
Dancers, Fighters, army personal and yoga and combines them into HIIT/Circuit training.


I think that nowadays it is nearly impossible to actually offer additional value that cannot be found for free on the internets into a fitness product.
Also I'm pretty sure that every single angle has been used, and milked.

YET some programs that are just a copy of the last one or a mix of some other programs such as insanity and p90x seem to make enough revenue to justify spending the time making those products.

I think that the easiest way to generate some money in the online fitness industry is to offer the shortcut products, as people nowadays dont'want to put in the effort and get results anyways. (So create some content,launch a site, cash some money and stop putting effort into it, repeat with a next product) totally not morally or ethically acceptable, but it works.)
People that do have the will to improve will usualy find a way, or already know what they are doing.

 

[GuestUser116]

@theag @Gabriel Of course you can find calisthenics for free on the web, like the 2 above said, you can find almost anything. And there is so much misleading BS on bodybuilding.com

You won't find all this in one package tho

WeightStenics includes
- DVD with all the exercises
- A diet and nutrition plan (Intermittent fasting)
- Easy bulking principles for skinny guys
- Guide to naturally raise testosterone levels
- 3 different calisthenics routines for beginners, intermediates, and advanced
- 1 free weights combined with calisthenics routine
- Common bodybuilding myths debunked with science
- A guide to supplements
- The deal with cardio
- In depth guide to how aesthetics work and how to achieve aesthetism in your physique
- (Bonus) An in depth guide on how to reach 30 pull ups

 

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[GuestUser116]

Your after photos look like what I looked like when I was 16 and playing rugby 2 times a week for club sport.

I don't think so, show me a pic.

 

[Gabriel]

I don't think so, show me a pic.

You have a good physique, hahaha don't worry! I'm at the same muscular level, but I'm not as lean as you not even in i'm wildest dream!

I think you should make your site a little more professional! Sorry but It looks so 2008! Even if what are you selling it's the shit, it just looks so bad!

I'm not a profession neither I do have experience with web designes, so take everything I say with a pinch of salt:

1- Don't make your text box from a Different color from the background! And if you do try that the collor it's on the same palette , and scatters with the background.

2- Don't use those red plane letter please! If your back ground it's white/gray, Maybe go with gray ? I don't have a clue how to fix that, but that doesn't look nice to my eyes.

3- The photos are good, but maybe use some more old pictures from your transformation? And please take that pic of your with those abs with girls on them, it's kinda bizarre and totally no profesionall, you are not zyzz. Maybe ask some friends girls, to take photos with you (regular ones, not them pointing at your abs).

Good points:

1-The Cover book looks good, also the content looks amazing.

2-Seeing photos of you actually doing things on that gym, make it look profesional.

3- I guess you are around 18? It looks so amazing bro keep it up.

As I say I'm not an expert neither I do have experience, but maybe if you can fix those little things you will be able to dome some convertions? I would upload an introduction of a video of you doing some pull ups, planks and shit. Like the bar brothers kinds of one, showing off your skillz on the bar .

 

[Yasai]

Just made a few sales. They ain't even from advertising tho haha; from the Warrior Forum.

How many sales?

I'm asking this because this "advertising your product on forums and other communities" could be a better angle for you than paid advertising (search engines).

This could also synergize well with a youtube-channel that you dedicate to explaining calisthenics, as someone mentioned.

 

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[GuestUser116]

How many sales?

I'm asking this because this "advertising your product on forums and other communities" could be a better angle for you than paid advertising (search engines).

This could also synergize well with a youtube-channel that you dedicate to explaining calisthenics, as someone mentioned.

Its just single digit sales, a one time thing.

How many people know how to upload a video on youtube? The majority right?
How many people know how to create a sales page? See what I'm saying; less competition and looks more pro.

My site didn't convert shit tho. So I'm shooting at new approaches and testing on, seeing how the market responds. It's good and all but the glitch is I'm almost out of $$$. I'm 17 so I'm not the big dog companies are looking to hire. My only income is from my Amazon hustle, making $100-200 /month from my 3 fitness titles.

 

[GuestUser116]

Like 90 clicks. Is that enough to shoot a new approach?

 

[Gabriel]

Like 90 clicks. Is that enough to shoot a new approach?

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You didn't got any sales? Stop that right now, as I told you, your sales page it's pretty poor. Don't lose more money bro!

 

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[Yasai]

Don't use a youtube channel as a substitute for your sales page.
Use it to -promote- your product and send them to your existing sales page.
Or send them directly to your check-out page.
See it as a way to get free traffic (and improve your reach).

 

[GuestUser116]

You didn't got any sales? Stop that right now, as I told you, your sales page it's pretty poor. Don't lose more money bro!

Ye I got a free $75 ads card so it's all good.

Don't use a youtube channel as a substitute for your sales page.
Use it to -promote- your product and send them to your existing sales page.
Or send them directly to your check-out page.
See it as a way to get free traffic (and improve your reach).

But how do I get traffic on the channel?

 

[Durete]

Ye I got a free $75 ads card so it's all good.

But how do I get traffic on the channel?

Content,
Reply to other more crowded fitness channels, answer their questions, and put a link to your channel, or invite them to check out yours.
Guest blogs
Guest video's.

Etc etc etc.

 

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[Digamma]

People, you are making a big mess here.
It's useless to open up new lead generation streams if the sales page doesn't convert shit.
Fix the landing page. When you convert at least 2% of leads, then you work to pull traffic. Otherwise, you are just wasting bandwidth.

 

[Mike Kavanagh]

People, you are making a big mess here.
It's useless to open up new lead generation streams if the sales page doesn't convert shit.
Fix the landing page. When you convert at least 2% of leads, then you work to pull traffic. Otherwise, you are just wasting bandwidth.

To quote my father loosely...
"It doesn't matter if it's good shit or bad shit if no one know what the shit you're talking about"
Of course, it was a completely different topic, but it works in this case.

 

[John Page]

This is not the point. The point is that we can't have the same discussion in every thread. There is a thread about ethics, let's talk about it there.
Here, is about Glacier's landing page.

Just to be clear, you are talking about conning people. Glacier believes in his product.

I understand now. Conning is exactly what I meant. And I agree with your point of not bringing the same discussion to every thread.

 

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[nebuer]

nvm

 

[piesandak47]

Headline isn't really attention grabbing.

And please get rid of the pic of you with the 2 girls, gives a jersey shore douchey vibe. Not sure how that's working for you but it looks like the beginning of a really really bad porno.

 

[Cami]

I've made a whole new, superior sales page. My old one didn't convert so I improved everything I can.

Wrote a whole new sales-letter myself, targeted at skinny guys
The sales page is all about calisthenics and speaking to my audience (skinny guys)
Created a new professional, neat, slick looking design
Added background color to the texts so they're not floating
Added more pictures and the copy I wrote has less words
Created a bonus ebook and added it on the sales page
Made a new page for the testimonials and linked the 2 pages together. This way potential customers can go back and forth thru the pages and make up their mind

I cashed in a lot of time and effort in this. I legitly believe this product can become a success. And I feel accomplished.

weightstenics.com
weightstenics.com/testimonials

My honest opinion.... Website seems too much like an infomercial and honestly didn't want to take the time to read past the first sentence. If you don't relate to your audience within 3 seconds they will move on. At the very top you need less words and better quality pictures. IMO the heading should be one word and underneath put the description.Something like.

WEIGHTSTENICS
Skinny to ripped in 90 days
(put a large a great high res picture here)
5 reasons calisthenics are superior to weights <----(i actually read this)

(then your sales pitch with book and price)

Good luck!

 

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[GuestUser116]

honestly didn't want to take the time to read past the first sentence. If you don't relate to your audience within 3 seconds they will move on.

You're not my target audience.

You're skinny. I get it; sucks doesn't it? That spot on relates to my target audience.

 

[Ninjakid]

Your site definitely looks a lot better than it did before. I'd recommend replacing the grey CSS boxes with the black text because they remind me too much of a devil-worshipper niche site (disclosure: I actually have never visited something like that (I think). But it my imagination, those grey CSS boxes would be there).

I think your brand lacks originality. There are a ton of fitness brands on the net out there, and they're all saying, "there's this new technique that definitely works," "look how fast you can get in to shape," "I was just like you once" etc. etc. To make your brand successful, you need something unique that makes you stand out from all the others; a reason why people will keep coming back to you. If you don't have that, your site is just going to look cliché.