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Gary Halbert 30 day challenge Copywriting Group

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Im new on here and am going to take this challenge because i feel this will be a major stepping stone to improve myself. Before going this forum i didnt even know what copy was. But my question.

Is writing copy a job? Ex: will someone pay me to write an ad for them like the ones listed?

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You could make it a job, if you wanted to do. Lots of people are full-time copywriters. You could probably make fairly good money doing so if you sell yourself to the right people and if you are any good at it.
 
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Im new on here and am going to take this challenge because i feel this will be a major stepping stone to improve myself. Before going this forum i didnt even know what copy was. But my question.

Is writing copy a job? Ex: will someone pay me to write an ad for them like the ones listed?

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Learn copy, create value, sell it yourself and pay yourself.
 
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Is writing copy a job? Ex: will someone pay me to write an ad for them like the ones listed?

You bet.

I got paid $4,000 for the first salesletter I wrote for a client.

A decent copywriter who knows how to sell himself can make low 6-figures relatively easily... world class copywriters can make a million a month in royalties... but it's a LOT of work and not a fastlane business.

However here's the harsh reality:

Most copywriters make less than $30k a year.

Because often the type of person attracted to being a copywriter likes writing and hiding behind their computer and lacks the selling/business skills to get clients.

And when you write a letter for $5,000 that takes you two weeks and your client makes $100,000 in one week, you quickly realize you got the wrong end of the stick.
 

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Okay I've decided to take on this Beast of a Challenge! Starting with Scientific Advertising. Thanks for an awesome thread @oldscool.
And also thanks in advance to everyone for the information to help us Fastlaners with the challenge!

Let's Go!
 
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The link to the challenge is down for me. Can anyone else confirm it as being down? Anyone save a backup of it?
It was down for me aswell. You can find it on the gary halbert letter, april 1987.
 
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From:

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Dear Friend & Subscriber,

Every once in a while, someone comes to me and says something like this: "Gary, I've got to learn how to write copy. I've never done it before and I've got just 30-days to learn how to create a world class promotion. Can you help me? Can you make me into a world class copywriter in just 30-days? Can you, huh? Can you? Huh? Huh?"

Strangely enough, the answer is yes. Sort of. At least, I can give a "qualified yes" answer to such a question. Actually, I may not be able to make someone "world class" in just 30-days, but I can almost certainly make such a person better than anyone he or she is likely to be able to hire.

Providing, of course, that the person in question has at least a modicum of talent and, much more importantly, the ability to follow directions and an appetite for very hard work.

Here's how I'd do it: If you were my student, the first thing I'd ask you to do is give yourself a basic education in valid advertising principles. To begin with, I'd want you to read everything listed below:

"Scientific Advertising"
-by Claude Hopkins


"The Robert Collier Letter Book"
-by Robert Collier


"Tested Advertising Methods"
-by John Caples

"How To Write A Good Advertisement"
-by Vic Schwab

"The Gary Halbert Letter" (all back issues)
-by Gary Halbert

"The Boron Letters"
-by Gary Halbert

"The Lazy Man's Way to Riches"
-by Joe Karbo

"Break-Through Advertising"
-by Eugene M. Schwartz

"7-Steps To Freedom"
-by Ben Suarez

O.K., after you had read all of the above, I would further instruct you to read nothing else and not take notes. You know, getting a good education in any field is tricky and, in advertising, it borders impossible. You see, most books written abut advertising are not just bad;they are downright dangerous! Many years ago, Claude Hopkins (the greatest ad man who ever lived) was asked to critique and offer suggestions on how to improve some college textbooks on advertising. His suggestion?

"Burn Them!"

Truly. Claude further went on to say that the "educators" involved had no right to impose such erroneous BS on a group of naive students, that it would take years of front-line experience to "deprogram" the students and free them up from all that garbage.

So listen: Not only is it important what you do learn; it is equally important what you do not learn. So, step one is to read only the material I have listed.

Now, about this business of not taking notes: Don't worry. We're not finished with those books, newsletters, and Boron Letters after just one reading. No Sir. Not by a long shot. Those books and those letters should become your lifetime companions.

However, for now, I want you to just rip right through them, non-stop.

O.K., now that you've read all that material, what's next? This: I want you to get a copy of the following ads and direct mail letters:

"Do You Make These Mistakes In English?"
"What Everybody Should Know About This Stock And Bond Business"


"The Nancy L. Halbert Heraldry Letter"

"How To Burn Off Body Fat, Hour-By-Hour"

"At 60 Miles An Hour The Loudest Noise In This Rolls Royce Is The Ticking Of The Electric Clock"

"Why Men Crack"

"How To Collect From Social Security At Any Age"

"The Admiral Byrd Transpolar Expedition Letter"

"The Lazy Man's Way To Riches"

And, in general, anything you can get your hands on that was written by Gary Bencivenga, Dan Rosenthal, Joe E. Kennedy, Pat Garrard, Steve Brown, Drew Kaplan, Claude Hopkins, Joe Karbo, Ben Suarez, Joe Sugarman, Gene Schwartz and, of course, yours truly.

Onward. Now that you've obtained copies of these ads and letters, I want you to sit down and copy them out word-for-word in your own handwriting. Next, I want you to create a hand-drawn layout of each ad and direct mail package. Listen: The goal here is to get you to create a professional package (completely "comped up") that is all ready to go first to a typist and then to a typesetter.

Now, after you've done all this, I want you to actually take one of these packages to a typist and then to a typesetter and have the ad or direct mail package typeset. Then proof the ad and, after making any necessary corrections, have a velox (stat) made of it.

Alright. What you have just completed is all the necessary "end steps" of writing out the final draft of an ad, laying it out and getting it typeset and stated and totally (and perfectly) "camera-ready" so it can be given to a "no-brainer" publication printer.

Do this.Do it.Do it. Don't be simple-minded. Don't come to me and say, "O.K., Gary, I've got the idea. I know what you're getting at. It really wasn't necessary for me to do all that mechanical stuff as long as I understand what you're driving at, right Gary?"

Sorry Buckwheat; it doesn't work that way. If you really want to know it, you've really got to do it.

There are no shortcuts.

You know, I'm sick to death of people who can't be bothered with the little nitty-gritty details of "hands on" experience. Of people who believe that somehow they can know a thing without experiencing it. Listen: It is possible to be "conversant" with something and really not have any kind of "gut understanding" of it at all. I'm sorry, but no matter what your Mommy and Daddy told you, men can never really understand the pain of childbirth, priests cannot comprehend the joys of sex, "normies" can never understand alcoholics, and not one speck of true advertising wisdom has ever been written by a PhD.

By the way, did you ever see all those ads by copywriters in DM News and the Reporter of Direct Marketing? The ones where they mention all their awards?

Know this: Not one of the legends mentioned so far in this letter care one iota about awards. No, my friend, if you would ever hear Ben Suarez, Sugarman, or any of the rest of us talking about our achievements, we won't be talking about awards, we'll be talking about numbers!

Forgive me, I digress. Let us press on. So far, we've only done the "end steps" of creating an ad. In actuality, there's a hell of a lot more involved before we ever get to that point. It's time to go back to work. It's time to prepare your "tool kit." First, I now want you to go back and reread all those advertising books and back issues of my newsletters (including the Boron Letters and, this time,take notes. Write down every good idea, every important insight and every nugget of wisdom that is contained in all that material. What this means, my friend, is that by the time you are finished, you should have hundreds of notes.

Put these notes aside. Next, go back over all that material and write out every headline you find therein. Also, get a bunch of back issues of The National Enquirer and Cosmopolitan Magazine and copy all the headlines you will find that seem to be repeated over and over. Especially copy a lot of the "cover blurbs" from Cosmo; they are superb. Another good source of headlines is "2001 Headlines" which was compiled by Jay Abraham.

Let us review. Here's what you should have done so far:

1.You should have read all the books and newsletters I have recommended.
2.You should have copied out all the ads and direct mail letters I have listed.
3.You should've had at least one of those promotions comped up and typeset.
4.You should've reread all the books and newsletters and taken hundreds of notes.
5.You should've read all those "headline sources" and copied down mucho headlines.
Enough review. Next, take all your notes and headlines and put each individual note and each individual headline on a white 3 x 5 index card. And finally, take all those cards and put them in shoe boxes and then go take some time off. At least time off from this stuff. Go play golf for a few days or go back to your normal work routine or take a short vacation or whatever.

All rested?

Guess what? We are now ready, after all this "prep", to begin writing that first ad or direct mail letter. And so, let us begin. The first thing I want you to do is read and reread every ad or direct mail package that has already been written about what you are trying to sell. Take notes. Secondly, read and take notes on every ad or direct mail piece you can find that has been written for a competing or similar product or service.

Next, carefully examine the product or service and find out everything you can about it. If it's a book, read it. If it's a product, examine it. If it's a service, use it and ask questions.

Take notes on all this.

Put those notes on 3 x 5 index cards (one note per card) and put all those notes in a shoe box.

Go do something else for a few days. And listen: If you have a good idea during that time, don't verbalize it, don't write it down, don't tell anybody and try not to think about it. The idea here is to let everything ferment and boil and bubble up inside of you.

Back to work. We are now about to write the first draft of our ad. Go isolate yourself in a library or an office somewhere. Take all your shoe boxes with you. First, take out the 3 x 5 cards on the product or service you're going to write about. Shuffle through those cards. Read them. Say, "hmn?" every once in a while.

Now start shuffling through all your other 3 x 5 cards. Think about how all those good ideas and insights could be applied to your current project. Look at all of those hundreds of proven headlines. Think about how all those headlines could be modified to work for your current project. Maybe you could change"Do You Make These Mistakes In English?"to"Do You Say Any Of These Dumb Things Every Time You Call Your Stockbroker?"or maybe"Tova Borgnine Swears Under Oath That Her New Perfume Does Not Contain An Illegal Sexual Stimulant"could be transmuted to:

"Local Jeweler Swears Under Oath

That None Of Those Diamonds He Sells So Cheaply

Have Been Stolen!"

Get the idea? Of course you do. Keep shuffling those cards. Keep reading them. Jot down ideas as they occur to you. Actually shuffle the index cards like they were playing cards. Write out a couple "dumb" headline ideas. Write out some headlines that make more sense. Write a few that start with"How To...."Some that start with"17 Ways To...."And some that begin with"An Amazing...."And some that say"A Little Secret That...."

And so on. Write. Write. Write. Write. Write. Write. Write.

And guess what? Out of all this, if you really have done everything I have suggested, exactly as I have instructed - out will pop a "central selling idea" so powerful, so fresh and so compelling that you will know it is exactly right for the ad or direct mail package you are struggling to create.

I promise. It happens every time.

And when it does, write it down. If you are writing a direct mail letter, work that central selling idea into your first sentence. If you are writing any ad, use that CSI in the headline.

Now listen up. This is important. What will happen at this point is that your "mental floodgates" will be wide open. Ideas will come gushing out like water from a broken fire hydrant. Capture those ideas. Forget form. Forget grammar.

Write. Write. Write. Write. As fast as you can. Hurry! Hurry! Hurry! Hurry!

Don't stop for anything. Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go!

Write. Write. Write. Write. Page after page. Tell everything. Every detail. Every nuance. Every benefit. Every product feature. Every advantage.

Get it all.Get it all.Get it all.

Write. Write. Write. Write.

Rave! Rave! Rave! Rave! Crow! Describe! Enthuse! Give details. Don't worry about getting it perfect. Don't worry about spelling. Don't worry about formulas. Just keep writing. Go fast. Get it all. Write! Write! Write! Write!

And when you are done, set all this work aside and go do something else for a day or so. Let it cool.

And when you are ready to go back to work, I want you to go back to your first draft and now rework it in the following sequence:

1.Say something that gets attention.
2.Tell them why they should be interested. (Expand on CSI)
3.Tell them why they should believe what you are saying is true.
4.Prove it is true.
5.Itemize and describe all benefits.
6.Tell them how to order.
7.Tell them to order now.
O.K., after you have rearranged all your material so it conforms to the above sequence, you should now check your spelling, correct your grammar, edit and, in general, tighten up your copy.

Next, read your copy aloud. When you do this, you will discover all those little snags where your copy isn't smooth, where it doesn't flow well, where the transition from one sentence to another or from one paragraph to another or simply from one thought to another is less than seamless.

Now edit again. Make it tight. Use short sentences. Short paragraphs. Everyday English. Use some one word sentences. Use some one sentence paragraphs. Use subheads that make your copy look interesting and...

Easy To Read!

You could do more. A lot more. This is not, by a long shot, all you need to know to write "world class" copy. But, believe it or not, if you just do (I mean actually do it) everything I've described here, you'll be better than 99% of all those frauds who brag about their Golden Mailbox and Echo Awards.

And, isn't it wonderful how easy it is? Heck, I bet you thought it was going to be work.

Sincerely,
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Gary C. Halbert The Ravin' Maven

of Marketing


P.S.
You want to know what a truly world-class, no-excuse, no-BS copywriter ought to be able to do? It's this: He ought to be able to write an ad that tells how good he is. Hell, if he can't sell himself, how can you expect him to sell your goods or services.

Pray check out the enclosure.
 
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What do they mean when they say to read

The Gary Halbert Letter" (all back issues)

-by Gary Halbert

?

Just all the letters on his website? Or which ones exactly? I'm pretty much done reading all the books.

Thank you
 

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All his issues leading up to the issue that the challenge is in. There is a PDF version of his letters for easier reading... 1000 pages, but the challenge is fairly early on. It's maybe 100 pages that he meant to be read.
 

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Well guys, I took a (very) long break from the challenge due to a 12-14 hour a day job I accepted. Now that I'm free of that horrible curse, I'm back on the challenge! :) I'm doing a makeshift internship marketing for a start up atm, so I'll be able to plug in a lot of the knowledge I get and test it out immediately, which I think will really aid the learning process this time around.

I left off on Tested Advertising Methods, but I'm wondering if I should go back and start the challenge over again from the very beginning...its been about 3 months since I was last actively attempting it. I'd prefer to just dive straight back into Tested Advertising Methods, personally. But I'm wondering if you guys have any thoughts on which would be the better route to take?
 
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Is anyone able to access the full newsletter on his site? I'm trying to sign up but get an error message. Please let me know if someone has access to them and if they could forward them to me :) Thank you
 

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All his issues leading up to the issue that the challenge is in. There is a PDF version of his letters for easier reading... 1000 pages, but the challenge is fairly early on. It's maybe 100 pages that he meant to be read.

Does anyone know where this may be found?

The Gary Halbert letter is gold but the site is quite hard to navigate.
 

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Hey, this was probably posted somewhere, so I'm sorry, but does anyone have a copy of the ads he wants us to copy? I'm not sure I see them on the dropbox. Or are you guys just grabbing them off of Google?

Thank you
 

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Hey everyone, although I signed up a long time ago to these forums I'm basically completely new and just embarking on my entrepreneurial journey. I'm going to take this challenge because i feel this will be a major stepping stone to achieving my fastlane goals.
Question:
Gary Halbert says:
Guess what? We are now ready, after all this "prep", to begin writing that first ad or direct mail letter. And so, let us begin. The first thing I want you to do is read and reread every ad or direct mail package that has already been written about what you are trying to sell. Take notes. Secondly, read and take notes on every ad or direct mail piece you can find that has been written for a competing or similar product or service.
What is it we're supposed to sell? Does this assume we already have a product in mind, and if so, does that mean we can basically choose to write about whatever we want?
 

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Hey everyone, although I signed up a long time ago to these forums I'm basically completely new and just embarking on my entrepreneurial journey. I'm going to take this challenge because i feel this will be a major stepping stone to achieving my fastlane goals.
Question:
Gary Halbert says:

What is it we're supposed to sell? Does this assume we already have a product in mind, and if so, does that mean we can basically choose to write about whatever we want?

Im assuming if you dont have a product then just pick something youre interested in
 
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Did you guys end up buying the books or download them for free?
Ive found pdf's for almost all of them but i prefer hardcopy and dont like to steal from authors

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Does anyone have a list of all the additional material gary recomends us to get our hands on?

"And, in general, anything you can get your hands on that was written by Gary Bencivenga, Dan Rosenthal, Joe E. Kennedy, Pat Garrard, Steve Brown, Drew Kaplan, Claude Hopkins, Joe Karbo, Ben Suarez, Joe Sugarman, Gene Schwartz and, of course, yours truly."
 
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Does anyone have a list of all the additional material gary recomends us to get our hands on?

"And, in general, anything you can get your hands on that was written by Gary Bencivenga, Dan Rosenthal, Joe E. Kennedy, Pat Garrard, Steve Brown, Drew Kaplan, Claude Hopkins, Joe Karbo, Ben Suarez, Joe Sugarman, Gene Schwartz and, of course, yours truly."
I know http://www.infomarketingblog.com has some swipe files for Eugene Schwartz and Gary Halbert among some others.
 

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Hi guys, excited to begin this challenge, already read the Halbert letter back issues...

Could somebody please add me to the resources dropbox?

Edit: email removed from public forum. I'll message some more of you and buy Sci Ads to begin.
 
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In what order do you recommend we read the following material:

"Scientific Advertising" -by Claude Hopkins
"The Robert Collier Letter Book" -by Robert Collier
"Tested Advertising Methods” -by John Caples
"How To Write A Good Advertisement" -by Vic Schwab
"The Gary Halbert Letter" (all back issues) -by Gary Halbert
"The Boron Letters" -by Gary Halbert
"The Lazy Man's Way to Riches" -by Joe Karbo
"Break-Through Advertising" -by Eugene M. Schwartz
"7-Steps To Freedom" -by Ben Suarez

Thanks. I'm starting this evening.
 
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I read them in that order. You may want to read Robert Collier later, it has a lot of examples that you may get more out of once you've read some of the other books. Scientific Advertising is a great first book. The last three would be fine early on, too.
 

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