Get Updates (It's FREE)

Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Question about Direct Mailing lists

  1. #1
    (3) Lamborghini LightHouse's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2007
    Locale
    Northern VA
    Posts
    2,377
    Thanks
    471
    Thx'd 760 times in 452 Posts

    Default Question about Direct Mailing lists

    OK so digging around looking to see lists etc. Does anyone know how the structure works? The price says something like $8/M is that per thousand names?

    This is what i am looking at http://lists.the-dma.org/market?page...search_results

  2. #2
    (6) Mercedes rocksolid's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2008
    Locale
    New York
    Posts
    463
    Thanks
    111
    Thx'd 119 times in 89 Posts

    Default Re: Question about Direct Mailing lists

    I'm not sure. There is no info about it on the website. I would contact them and verify.

  3. #3
    (3) Lamborghini kurtyordy's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2007
    Locale
    PA
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,353
    Thanks
    268
    Thx'd 585 times in 386 Posts

    Default Re: Question about Direct Mailing lists

    $8/m typically means per thousand

  4. #4
    (3) Lamborghini hakrjak's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2007
    Locale
    Colorado Springs
    Age
    36
    Posts
    2,000
    Thanks
    6
    Thx'd 257 times in 180 Posts

    Default Re: Question about Direct Mailing lists

    Yep and it's for 1 time use. They sprinkle in a bunch of test addresses so that if you use their list more than one, they will know.

    Cheers,

    -Hakrjak
    "Don't let good enough be good enough" -- Coach Bill Parcells to Tony Romo upon leaving the Dallas Cowboys.

  5. #5
    (3) Lamborghini LightHouse's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2007
    Locale
    Northern VA
    Posts
    2,377
    Thanks
    471
    Thx'd 760 times in 452 Posts

    Default Re: Question about Direct Mailing lists

    So when you rent a list, they infact send you the list in its entirety? and their only recourse is to check the test addresses to see if you have used it twice?

    Just trying to get a handle on that aspect, to see if its worth it. Does lower cost typically mean lower response rates?

    What about opt-out and dirty lists??

  6. #6
    (3) Lamborghini hakrjak's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2007
    Locale
    Colorado Springs
    Age
    36
    Posts
    2,000
    Thanks
    6
    Thx'd 257 times in 180 Posts

    Default Re: Question about Direct Mailing lists

    I've only done direct mail once, and I paid about $80 for 1000 addresses I think, which were delivered to me on prestick labels. No idea on response rates.... I'd think that response rates on direct mail would be pretty low still... We were peddling some MLM scheme at the time, and we got about 3-5 signups out of the 1000 mail pieces that went out.

    Cheers,

    - Hakrjak
    "Don't let good enough be good enough" -- Coach Bill Parcells to Tony Romo upon leaving the Dallas Cowboys.

  7. #7
    (3) Lamborghini LightHouse's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2007
    Locale
    Northern VA
    Posts
    2,377
    Thanks
    471
    Thx'd 760 times in 452 Posts

    Default Re: Question about Direct Mailing lists

    Did you feel it was worth the cost? or did those sign-up's not net you very much money? i will have to dig around and see what else i can learn about it.

  8. #8
    (6) Mercedes Bobo's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2008
    Age
    42
    Posts
    489
    Thanks
    91
    Thx'd 333 times in 163 Posts

    Default Re: Question about Direct Mailing lists

    Disclaimer: I never got around to using the service but I nearly did. Check out Postcardmania.com. They have a lot of good articles about direct mail.

    What they told me was that to really gauge the effectiveness of a list you have to hit each person 2-3 times.

    They sold lists and do the postage and honestly when Jill and I looked over different options we thought they would be really good, we just never 'got there'. Kinda wish we had now because it looked good.

    Guys - I have no affiliation to their business whatsoever and can't give a true recommendation because I never used them, I did research the idea for a Lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng time and that is who I was going to use. I'd suggest reading there about direct mail if nothing else.

    I've also worked lists as a broker doing cold calls and some lists are rich, others suck. You want to know how well worn that list is. When I looked into this a 'great' response rate was anything over 1%. For us, if we sent out 5000 postcards and got 50 new customers I would have done it every week for a year to build my customer list but again... we shelved the business before we quite got to it. If anyone has used them or a similar service I'd be interested in hearing. Advertising was a scary one for me, sometimes it came close to break even, other times the chirping of crickets was friggin deafening.

  9. #9
    (6) Mercedes CactusWren's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2008
    Locale
    Arizona
    Posts
    509
    Thanks
    94
    Thx'd 63 times in 46 Posts

    Default Re: Question about Direct Mailing lists

    You can buy lists to use more than once. It's usually slightly more expensive but the list price is always the least expensive thing when you do a mailing.

    Watch out and make sure you get your list from a trusted list seller. This is crucial. The return is usually about 1.5-3%.

    I usually like to send out my mailing and resend the exact same stuff two weeks later. If you get calls that someone wants to be removed from your mailing list, you tell them it will take up to four weeks to kick in and respect their wishes after that for sure.

    Again, try to get the best quality list.

    Once I purchased a list with a very specific target market in mind (something like married adults 25-40 with children ages 3-8 in a specific county) went with a cheap list and had zero response; plus well over 20 calls with comments such as "I am retired and my children have already graduated from college, can you get me off your mailing list, please." Grrr...

  10. #10
    (13) Pontiac
    Joined
    Aug 2008
    Locale
    Warner Robins
    Age
    35
    Posts
    37
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Default Re: Question about Direct Mailing lists

    Quote Originally Posted by LightHouse View Post
    So when you rent a list, they infact send you the list in its entirety? and their only recourse is to check the test addresses to see if you have used it twice?

    Just trying to get a handle on that aspect, to see if its worth it. Does lower cost typically mean lower response rates?

    What about opt-out and dirty lists??
    Well, they will send you the amount of names you want on the list or in it's entirety. The list is usually spoken of as the "universe".

    For example, rc car collectors. There could be a list with a universe of 2 million. You have the option of getting the list partially or in its entirety. You then have the ability to determine age, gender, income, demographic, maybe even more.

    I would say that you do get what you pay for. There is usually a per item tack on once you pay the base rate for a list and want to target it more closely.

    Opt out can be discussed with your broker and you can do research to determine what companies are known to have dirty lists or not.

    Just as an added note, ALL of this information is free in the reference section in your local library. I have spent hours studying direct marketing and have not spent a dime on research.

    That's my wooden nickel.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Treasury lists 39 'bailed' banks - $1.5B
    By News-Mod in forum Economy & Finance News
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Jan 23rd, 2009, 03:01 AM
  2. Anybody use DIRECT BUY for Home Modeling supplies?
    By hakrjak in forum Real Estate (Residential)
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: Jan 13th, 2009, 08:41 PM
  3. Site that lists E-Biz That Are For Sale
    By Happy in forum Web Businesses/Internet Marketing
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: Sep 5th, 2008, 08:39 PM
  4. Direct/Internet Marketers - good or bad
    By royemunson in forum Web Businesses/Internet Marketing
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: Apr 19th, 2008, 04:39 PM
  5. Anyone use direct mail for marketing?
    By nomadjanet in forum General Business Discussion
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: Sep 30th, 2007, 06:39 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •